both are good.... I'd pick one of each.
This is a discussion on Long term durability: Kahr PM9 or S&W M&P 340? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm looking into picking up either a Kahr PM9 or a Smith & Wesson M&P 340 for a pocket gun and am looking to find ...
I'm looking into picking up either a Kahr PM9 or a Smith & Wesson M&P 340 for a pocket gun and am looking to find out the expected durability for each respective firearm. I've found that I can shoot the Airlight J-frames without any pain and the PM9 is very manageable as well. I was hoping to get some insight into how many rounds each is able to withstand in its lifetime. The M&P 340 would be shot mainly with .38 special with occasional bouts of .38 +P or .357 Magnum and the PM9 wouldn't see too many +P rounds either. Any help would be appreciated.
both are good.... I'd pick one of each.
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If I had to, I think I would bet on the S&W out lasting the Kahr, but both will out last you or I anyway.
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You wont wear either one out shooting , or carrying . Pick the one you like best , or pick up both lol .
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Not necessarily true, if you are going to be using the gun you choose for extensive range time and training - and IMO you should do that with any carry gun - then the Kahr manufacturer's directive regarding the life of the gun should be addressed. i don't recall the exact figure but they do state (in the manual) that Kahr's have a 'life' relative to the number of rounds fired.
Hopefully someone will answer that for you.
Has a lot of handgun manuals, not the PM9 specifically but does have two Kahrs, I guess they are generic to a point.
EDIT: The KP manual covers the PM9.
Have both, can't go wrong with either. I wouldn't worry about wearing them out and you can send them back to their mfgs if need be. I shoot both quite a bit and no problems. Gold Dot HP short barrels .357 and Corbon DPX seem ideal in the 340, the PM9 isn't as affected by choice of ammo.
Size: advantage PM9, flat, still both excellent for pocket; Weight loaded: slight advantage 340 but is has two fewer rounds; Variety of ammo and price: advantage 340: Ability to rapidly and accurately hit target with hot loads: PM9; Night sights: advantage PM9, three dot vs. single with cupped ramp; Cost of spare magazines/speedloader: big edge 340; Cost to purchase: 340 wins again; Holsters other than pocket: 340 by a large margin; Resale: can't be sure yet but 340 again; Trigger pull a draw: long and even before suprise break vs. progessive loadup action of the 340; Reliability: FTF scenario, advantage 340, just pull again; Abilitly to hand off to a non-shooter or beginner comfort: small or greater advantage 340; it's a revolver.
For the money the 340M&P is hard to beat, but the PM9 is a serious SA pocket gun than can be reloaded more quickly and provide more capacity, nice in areas where thugs travel in packs.
I would select the 340M&P (the best of the alloy j-frames), with the PM9 a second.
Last edited by ckd; July 15th, 2007 at 05:16 AM. Reason: edit comments
I shoot a PM9 primarily and as such it goes to the range with me ALL the time. As of yesterday, it has gone through close to 2,000 rounds without a single hiccup. (NO failure to feeds, NO failure to ejects, and only one striked primer that didn't fire but that was the cartridge, not the gun) I will admit that I am VERY clean oriented, and it is kept pristine at all times. But this may give an idea as to its reliabilty. As for the manual stating a "lifespan", I have read and re-read the manual and found no mention of that. Overall this is the most reliable gun I have ever shot with no exceptions.
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