July 14th, 2007 08:10 PM
Pocket carry is a great option. I carry a S&W642CT everyday during warmer month. The holster of choice is a Robert Mika pocket holster. They are cheap and very well made. Do a web search for him.
CT = Crimson Trace Lasergrips are a great option but costly.
I have seen the S&W642CT for $525.00 ( 3 Months Ago) now they seem to have gone up. As far as ammo you will not find a better ammo than Speer Gold Dot .38 for a short barrel .
Hope this helps
July 14th, 2007 08:21 PM
To answer the question about the 357 340PD vs the 442. Its pretty simple, the 340PD cost twice as much and the benifits of a 357 Mag out of a 1.7"ish barrel is minimal and the punishment is excesive when attempting to qualify with it.
The difference between the 642 and 442 is a few oz's and some more money. The 642 is stainless where the 442 is an airweight.
For my money, I'd go 442. (Oh Taurus makes decent weapons, but I'd still find that S&W are not much more expensive and better quality.
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July 14th, 2007 08:33 PM
442 and 642 both aluminum frame
Actually, the 442 and the 642 both have an aluminum frame and weigh the same amount. The only difference is the finish - the 442 is black and the 642 is light colored, like stainless steel. I have a 642, and it weighs 15 ounces empty.
Originally Posted by fed_wif_a_sig
July 14th, 2007 08:38 PM
If it is no guns it is no guns period
July 14th, 2007 08:42 PM
Lexington... I'm not going to try and change your mind... Just going to give my opinion on Ruger SP-101's. I have never shot J fram Smiths so I can't compare.
But I have had two SP-101's for about 18 years. I love them. Ruger builds tough revolvers! They don't fail, as far as I'm concerned! While they are all stainless, they weigh a bit more, but in my opinion when you go for it, you know you have a gun in your hand and you know it's a lifesaver! If I'm in a fight and it gets slammed hard on the pavement, I don't feel the cylinder is going to fly open or fail to cycle.
They are small. 5 shots so I don't think they are any wider than a J frame for any practical purpose including concealment. My wife carries hers .38 spl, DAO with bobbed hammer and mine is .357, DAO with bobbed hammer. While I usually shoot .38 spl +P's, same as my wife, the factory rubber grips are excellent and shooting the magnum loads is not hard or uncomfortable as far as I'm concerned, but I still shoot the .38 spl loads for defense.
I can carry it in a pants pocket without a pocket holster and not notice a print that the sheep will really spot. I am going to get a pocket holster anyways someday.
I carried it as a BUG for years but am now using an XD for BUG now so I don't carry it much these days but I'll never get rid of the SP-101's.
This is just my opinion and YMMV.
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July 14th, 2007 08:49 PM
I suggest something like a SW 638 with the "bodyguard" style hammer. The exposed part of the hammer is a little no-snag nubbin, so you can shoot SA if you want to cock the hammer or straight DA just like a 642. I like being able to choose. The 638 will handle up to 38+P. My wife has one with Crimson Trace grips and it's a sweet little piece, every once in a while I get to shoot it.
July 14th, 2007 10:31 PM
I lke the little S&W j frames...my wife has the 637...
I have considered trimming down the hammer, but it really isn't carried in a pocket...so not a real problem.
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July 14th, 2007 10:39 PM
Heh... that is certainly the overall goal here!
Originally Posted by retsupt99
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July 15th, 2007 01:12 AM
I really like my S&W 640 because I can shoot full .357 rounds if I choose to. Do I practice wih .357's? Hardly! I practice with .38's!
But that baby has 125gr JHP's in it for SD!
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July 15th, 2007 08:03 AM
My 24/7 gun
Speer 135 gr. GDHP
Kramer pocket holster
Desantis Apache ankle holster
Bianchi Speed Strips
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July 15th, 2007 08:16 AM
Here in hot-n-muggy south Florida my summer heat is a S&W M642 in a Mika pocket holster with one (usually) HKS speedloader in the other pocket. When it gets "cooler" I'll start wearing my Sig again.
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July 15th, 2007 09:38 AM
I have owned several snubbies over the last 30 years or so. The one I own now is a S&W Model 36. I prefer the steel frame to any lighter weight, and would not want a .357 magnum. I shoot the steel frame guns much more accurately, with much better control for a follow up, and use JHP +P ammo without any problems. If you find you can shoot a light weight small revolver accurately, enjoy it...the steel frame is my choice based on my experience with several of each.
FWIW, I have never had a problem carrying a hammer gun in my pocket, and I always carry a loaded speedloader as well.
If you practice, you will find the snubbies are a lot more accurate than you would believe. Learning to shoot one well will make you a better shot overall.
July 15th, 2007 11:57 AM
I LOVE my newer model S&W 60 (.38/.357)
I have been carrying it more than either of my Sigs lately.
Not too bad with .357 loads and perfect with .38 +P's.
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July 15th, 2007 12:26 PM
Our band likes the S & W 642 and FOX pepper spray.
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