questions about pt1911

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    questions about pt1911

    I just recently picked this gun up and it is my first 1911. I have purchased some speer gold dots for it and it seems to have trouble chambering a hp from a fully loaded mag. (no problem if there is only 7 in there and no problem w/ 8 if i use ball ammo) it gets jammed between the slide and feed ramp if filled to capacity(the feed ramp comes polished).

    is this normal for these guns ??

    also upon closer examination i found that the round getting hung on the feed ramp has the bullet pushed further into the case. is it still safe to shoot these rounds???

    Thanks cmwilson

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    If will mess with the pressure of the round, are you "sling shooting the slide" or using the slide release to chamber the first round?

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    using the slide release is the only way i can get it to chamber a jhp and sometimes this still hangs up. slingshoting only works on ball ammo(all the time) or with 7 rounds of jhp in mag. (tried both factory mags)

    thanks for the help

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    I had a similar issue on one of my Kimbers, the fact that if feeds ball ok is disturbing, my issue wouldn't feed either.

    How many rounds total do you have through the gun?

    You may just have to bite the bullet and try several different makes of JHP to find one that will run right.

    If your feeding ball, I don't think it's a mag problem.

    QK, Bud or OD will probably be able to help out more.

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    i only have 100 rounds of wwb ball ammo through it and it fed it 100%

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    I'm not overly familiar with the Taurus PT 1911, but you may have to run a few hundred more to get any "kinks" worked out.

    Is it a ramped barrel? And is the round hanging up higher or lower on the ramp?

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    it is a ramped barrel and the round hangs lower on the ramp

    when i push the rounds out of the mag by hand it looks like they tend to tilt nose down particullarly the first one in a full mag .looking at my glock mags the top round is supported the full length of the cartridge and on the 1911 the top round is at more of an angle(supported only half the length of the top cartridge by the rounds that are under it) than the next round in line. this seems to pull the nose of the top round down when it is half way out of the mag.


    if i am making any sense at all?? again thanks for the help

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    It sounds as though you have a bolt over base misfeed.
    The PT1911s have external extractors right? If it had an internal extractor, I would say it may a little too much tension on the extractor, which is not letting the rim of the cartridge slip up under the extractor hook
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    I dont thin it has a ramped barrel just a std one all the ones Ive seen have been that way any ways

    Ok so its jamming feeding out of the mag and into the barrel are there and crescent moon shapes on the cases showing a 3 point jam?..

    Also first think i would try is a different Mag a Wilson or CMC powermag .. most of the mags that come with 1911's are junk

    Then i would check and see if the breech face is smooth or not and the extractor where it rides over the rim is smooth or not .. also maybe to much tension

    A pic of the jam would really help..

    As to the bullets pressed back into the case dont shoot them ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD View Post
    It sounds as though you have a bolt over base misfeed.
    The PT1911s have external extractors right? If it had an internal extractor, I would say it may a little too much tension on the extractor, which is not letting the rim of the cartridge slip up under the extractor hook
    Naw they are internal OD

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    Thanks Bud.

    Sounds like a bolt over base misfeed to me. but you're correct, a picture would be worth a million.
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    it is an internal extractor

    I just tried it and the round did not get far enough out of the mag to go under the extractror.

    tried it again and all seems well w/ both mags( this is the first time i have been able to slingshot a round into the chamber from a full mag of jhp since i have had it. usually have to use the slide release.) maybe just needed to ask for help kinda like going to the doctor i guess. anyways if it keeps it up i will be back for more suggestions


    should i shoot the rounds that have had the bullet pushed further into the case or should i be on the safe side and discard them.

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    CW, I would replace the magazine springs with some extra power jobs from Wolff.

    Look for this header; 45 Cal. - 8 round 1911 ACT-MAG Magazines Only
    http://gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/Colt....agazineSprings

    should i shoot the rounds that have had the bullet pushed further into the case or should i be on the safe side and discard them.
    If they are not set-back too badly, I shoot mine.
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    just did it again.i will try to post a pic wednesday( my idea of the ramped barrel may be wrong i am a 1911 noob but it does look ramped) . anyway thanks for trying to help maybe we will get this figured out with a pic. you guys have been extremely helpful thanks

    the mag spring does seem excessively tight at full capacity i can not push the top round off by hand with out letting the nose of the bullet tip down. i think this is the problem as the flat nose of the jhp is flat against the ramp thus pushing the bullet in to the case. this also explains the round nose of ball ammo being able to slide right up into position.

    anyways if a new mag fixes it i'll let you know if not maybe the pic will explain a little more.

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    Does your pistol's barrel look like this?

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