What I want in a GLOCK redesign

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    What I want in a GLOCK redesign

    I love my GLOCK handguns. They're my favorites in an easy sweep.

    BUT, I have to say that two things are not "perfect" about them, for me. (I make do, as no other gun has quite the confluence of likeable qualities to suit my tastes.)

    1. I want the backstrap near the lanyard hole to not bulge the way it does. That swell presses deeper into my hand in a spot where it should not be doing so, and causes me to not have as tight a grip up top in the web between thumb and index finger.

    2. I want the gun to have a trigger like the XD has, with multiple-strike capability. According to a segment on Personal Defense TV, in which the guy was showing the suitability of the XD as a "survival tool," multiple-strike capability is a very good thing to have. He even claimed that a majority of misfires can be successfully ignited if a second-strike is possible.

    So there. I hope someone at GLOCK is watching. I respectfully submit that these two changes would drastically improve the GLOCK handgun line. I know that I would, without hesitation, upgrade to a new model 22 if these changes were implemented.

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    The XD has the same striker fire that the Glock has- I know this because I have the XD 45 and the 9sc. If you shoot a Glock or Xd and there is no bang when the trigger is pulled- It's time to rack the slide.....

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    I want them to lose the finger grips and checkering and go back the Generation 1 frame style. That, and a trigger that breaks like glass, and I'd be happy :-)

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    Maybe drop in a factory upgraded trigger system with no pre travel and about a 4lb break- that would be sweet...

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    PJ... IIRC Dick Metcalf was referring to the Taurus 24/7 as having the "Multiple-Strike" capability.

    The XD striker is neither like the Glock or the Taurus and does not have multiple strike capability. It is referred to by Springfield, IIRC as having a true single action trigger on the XD as described by Dick Metcalf on PDTV.

    The striker on the XD from my understanding is "fully cocked" when the action is cycled, thus one of the reasons for the "grip safety" seen in the 1911's.

    It is my understanding on the Glock the striker is only "partially or 1/2 cocked" when the action is cycled and the pressing on the "safe action" trigger brings the stricker to a "full cock" and then releases it thus making the Glock neither a true single action or a double action.

    I have only had my XD for less than 2 months, but I do notice a smoother, easier trigger on the XD than on my Glock 23.

    I'm not an expert, and to me, it's not a big difference, but it is a noticable one. I still love my Glock, but the XD has things about it I like too, and one of them is the trigger!

    I hope this helps.
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    I love my XD's trigger, well, I generally love my XD, But that DA/SA function has got to be nice. I look forward to getting my hands on that Taurus 24/7 but won't purchase one until Springfield and Glock have a chance to retaliate. I think both of them will be putting a gun out with the DA/SA function shortly, unless they want to lose alot of ground to Taurus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
    I love my GLOCK handguns. They're my favorites in an easy sweep.

    BUT, I have to say that two things are not "perfect" about them, for me. (I make do, as no other gun has quite the confluence of likeable qualities to suit my tastes.)

    1. I want the backstrap near the lanyard hole to not bulge the way it does. That swell presses deeper into my hand in a spot where it should not be doing so, and causes me to not have as tight a grip up top in the web between thumb and index finger.
    My chief complaint with my Glock 27 has been that darn backstrap. I still may get it reduced.

    Glock is sticking with what sells and if the SF21 is the indicator of big changes, then don't expect much in the future. After 20 years of Glock I have become disenchanted, but I still love mine. My G27 is 10 years old and has about 40,000 through it with no hiccups.

    I would love to see a factory "Glock Custom Shop" or "Performance Center" that did a limited run of some well thought out handguns.
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    The first problem is easy enough to fix, as many have with a dremel.
    The second isnt so easy, as I think it would require a complete redesign of the innards, making it a completly different gun than our beloved Glock.
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    I don't know about the trigger but if you want the backstrap problem fixed you can send it here:
    http://www.rosssportinggoods.com/612600.html

    They specialize in glock custom work. $95 to fix the problem.

    They also have a great podcast "The Shooting Bench"

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    I've said it before, but my two main Glock "fixes" would be a second strike capability and an interchangeable back strap. The trigger you can get worked on easy enough if you want it changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsxplr View Post
    I don't know about the trigger but if you want the backstrap problem fixed you can send it here:
    http://www.rosssportinggoods.com/612600.html

    They specialize in glock custom work. $95 to fix the problem.

    They also have a great podcast "The Shooting Bench"

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    Thank you Kirk! These guys look like they do some good work. My G23 may very well be getting shipped to them shortly to get the finger grooves taken off and a back strap straightening done. Maybe just the whole grip reduction.

    I really like the way their stuff ends up looking. Thanks for the link!
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    Eveyone keeps wanting to change Glocks into something they ain't.. Heck, buy something else. I don't feel like a Glock today, I think I will just carry my Sig/Browning HP/etc. or even one of those outdated 1911s....
    Glock 19/FEG/FM HiPowers/Keltec P32 for me. When I can't use my 870,N98 or Marlin .30-30 of course...

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    I am thinking that the next generation of Glock pistols will be different. I believe you will see a full Pic Rail, ambi safety, and a "melt" on all sizes, not just the sub compacts. The reason I say this is: The 45 gap all sizes have the melt, the 21sf has a full pic rail and ambi safety. I think that is all the modifications we will see, with the possibility of a rail on the sub compacts also. I am thinking of having my 23 sent to ross and have them do the full grip reduction, along with cutting it to the 27 size grip. I like the thought of a longer bbl, with a very concealable grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post
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    2. I want the gun to have a trigger like the XD has, with multiple-strike capability. According to a segment on Personal Defense TV, in which the guy was showing the suitability of the XD as a "survival tool," multiple-strike capability is a very good thing to have. He even claimed that a majority of misfires can be successfully ignited if a second-strike is possible.
    Ugh, "hardware" solution to a "software" problem. At the range, double-strike is one thing, in any real-world situation, you should be transitioning to alternative force or doing the malfunction drill.

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    If they could only design it to be thinner with a better grip angle ... Oh wait , i have that with my Kahr.. Well maby they could give it a nice crisp trigger and change the grip... errr... ummm hang on i have that with my 1911 .. Hell i guess i wouldn't ask them to change a thing , I just wont have one LOL .
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