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    Fluff 'n Buff?

    OK......I don't know it all.

    I have always had revolvers, in the drawer or under the bench, but now have a CCW and CARRY I do......Looking at an affordable pistol and I read here that I will need to fluff 'n buff it. What does this entail? how far do I go with it? Special supplies?

    Thanks in advance......Cannon

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    Sounds like a Keltec. Shoot it as it might work great out of the box, after a good cleaning that is.

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    Sometimes people found buffing or polishing (fluff & buff) the feed ramp and other parts of Keltec pistols makes them work , or work more reliably.
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    If it is for a Kel-Tec, and it is one of the newer ones produced recently then shoot it and see how it runs. Mine was perfect from the box.

    Use the two finger grip on the p3at/p32 and it will cut down on your problems. It seems people trying to get a higher grip on the gun hold it in such a way that it jams. I guess it is kind of like Limp Wristing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky View Post
    Sometimes people found buffing or polishing (fluff & buff) the feed ramp and other parts of Keltec pistols makes them work , or work more reliably.
    It (F & B) did make a difference to my P-3AT...
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    Here are the links to the Kel-Tec Fluff & Buff information.

    Part 1.
    Part 2.

    I did Part 1 to my P-3AT yesterday, took about an hour.

    Only fired six rounds through it so far, but they all went downrange perfectly.
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    Just my 2 pennies added in concerning the P3AT.

    The P3AT is so small (for its cartridge size) and its slide is fairly light weight so it needs to be pretty smooth in order to move that cartridge up into the chamber with such a small recoil spring set-up.
    It's a decent quality pistol but, putting all kinds of time into polishing and lapping everything at the factory would kick the price of the pistol up and it's a fairly inexpensive firearm.
    So it may need some internal smoothing up. Mine sure did.
    But, now it's great and extremely reliable.

    The vast majority of higher quality semi-automatic pistols wiil not need any Fluff & Buff.
    They will either function flawlessly right out of the box or they will require a bit of a "shoot in" period.
    Truthfully, if a person knows how to do a little bit of pistol work then even a "shoot in" period can pretty much be eliminated.

    In short if you buy a decent quality semi-auto plus buy good magazines for it and shoot high quality ammunition then you'll pretty much be "good to go" without needing to polish anything. Putting a good friction reducing lube on the frame/slide rails sure helps also.
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    Actually , a "Fluff and buff" can be done to any firearm.

    I do it everytime I buy a used gun.

    A basic F&B consists of -

    1: a field strip or complete disassembly
    (depending on your expertise),followed by a detailed cleaning
    of all parts and a close inspection for wear or damage .

    2:Smoothing and polishing any bearing surfaces , and Possibly
    work on the trigger/fire control parts.

    3: Touchup of the finish - and thorough lubrication.
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    I bought a new 2 gen Kel Tec P3AT about a year ago.

    FB'd it and later did a ramp job to reduce smilies.

    850 perfect rounds later, one guy with a go anywhere anytime handgun.
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    Too many people jump at the chance to debate the quality of a Kel-Tec. The original question was about fluff and buff.
    I'm married to my Kahr.

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    No fluff n bluff on my Keltec p-3at, new 4 weeks ago. It's been flawless in everyway after about 220 rounds. I've cleaned it three times and use Breakfree as lube. Have three extra mags and no problem from them either.

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    Actually Geno Is Right

    At no time did the originator of this thread specifically mention the P3AT - He asked about the necessity of polishing (I guess) any semi-auto before it is reliable.

    I hope that I answered his question in my above post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    The vast majority of higher quality semi-automatic pistols wiil not need any Fluff & Buff.
    QKShooter nailed it! These are words that should be lived by when purchasing a new semi-automatic pistol. If the pistol will not perform properly right out of the box, it was not manufactured properly. It's just that simple.
    Fluff & buff this, polish that, tweak whatever, you own an unreliable semi-automatic pistol.
    Buy a high quality pistol that you can trust and depend on with your life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n_America View Post
    QKShooter nailed it! These are words that should be lived by when purchasing a new semi-automatic pistol. If the pistol will not perform properly right out of the box, it was not manufactured properly. It's just that simple.
    Fluff & buff this, polish that, tweak whatever, you own an unreliable semi-automatic pistol.
    Buy a high quality pistol that you can trust and depend on with your life!
    Good advice Generally , BUT - Brand Name and Price DO NOT
    necessarily equal "High Quality".

    I'm afraid that nowadays , very few things you can buy are perfect
    "out of the box".
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKsrule View Post
    Good advice Generally , BUT - Brand Name and Price DO NOT
    necessarily equal "High Quality".
    IMHO, in the handgun world it does....HK,Beretta,& Sig to name a few.

    I'm afraid that nowadays , very few things you can buy are perfect
    "out of the box".
    Being a former Manufacturing Engineer and Production Mgr., I not only expect it, I demand it, especially with firearms.

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