This is a discussion on The flattest/thinnest gun? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Im gonna say not last shot hold open for relaibilty with that small of a set up probley couldnt get it to run other wise ...
Im gonna say not last shot hold open for relaibilty with that small of a set up probley couldnt get it to run other wise 1911's seem to do weird things as they get shrunk im finding out ..
Also one of them slim line kahr's are pretty small and thin to small for me cant shoot it comfortably
And Borrowed that STI photo. I know it's bad web etiquette but, I'm a rebel. Hey...we might sell them a few pistols.
WOW! That IS AMAZINGLY THIN!
REALLY THIN...
Tex, that is the "BLS"- basically a Commander (short slide/full-size frame).
I asked the shop guy at STI about the sights and the hold-open. The response on the hold-open was very "HK"- in the studies the tech team looked at (mil/PD), it was "confusing" to have the slide lock open, and cost the shooter a few seconds of "***?", before they reloaded. The reasoning is that if you hear "click", you go to the clearance/reload drill. Basically, (from what I was told) the slide-catch has had the follower projection ground off, so replacement with a standard part should be a fairly drop-in procedure.
The sights (to me) are horrible- plain black. Here, I'm assuming they were looking at the "point-shoot-I-never-saw-the-sights" AAR's. The slide is extremely thin, but Mike said that he could get a set of white-dots (or hopefully XS) installed. I've got some money down, but still trying to get my M8's sold. Anyone looking?
Mike Chasse is the guy to ask for, $800 to your dealer. (My dealer will charge me $45 to do both guns, so $1645 total, VS the $1950 I would pay the local shop that has one. No tax, since I pay the dealer directly.
I have looked at the BDM, but it really didn't do much for me. If I'm carrying hi-cap, I'll go with my BHP (I've sanded and refinished my cocobolo grips to take some girth off). Specs for the BDM and BHP show only a 13 gram difference (883g/870g-I would almost ask if they got that by going from paint-over-park, to plain blued finish...that's less than 0.5 ounces?!?), and I like SA, so.....
STI LS40. bought used and had it hard chromed by APW. Developed cracks in frame due to hydrogen embrittlement, and STI REPLACED! it! Can't say enough good about the company. A little gun W/ large performance. Primary carry 16/7. Accurate, reliable, and disappears under a T-shirt in the Concealco iwb holster. Nat
I have looked at the BDM, but it really didn't do much for me. If I'm carrying hi-cap, I'll go with my BHP (I've sanded and refinished my cocobolo grips to take some girth off). Specs for the BDM and BHP show only a 13 gram difference (883g/870g-I would almost ask if they got that by going from paint-over-park, to plain blued finish...that's less than 0.5 ounces?!?), and I like SA, so.....
If memory serves, the Browning BDM is user-convertible from DA to SA. It IS thinner than the HP.
I'm surprised more people didn't mention the Kahr series. They're a top notch line of 9mm and 40s that are under 1 inch in thickness, perform flawlessly, are accurate, and are simply some of the best autos out there. I've never seen a 1911 that would compare for "flatness" and don't see how.
I think the flatness contributes significantly to the concealability and the Kahr line has it. The KelTec .380's are notoriously fickle, unreliable, etc. they are small and flat but exhibit a LOT of muzzle flip and are generally unpleasnt to shoot. The Rohrbaugh is thin but only a hair more than the Karh yet it's more compact and although I've never shot one, I think the Kahr 9 will perform better due to the erogonomics, barrel length, etc. and I think the Kahr's are cheaper too. I'm surprised more folks aren't as impressed with the Kahr line of weapons as I am but everyone has preferences and opinions.
QKShooter, my pleasure. Still, if only Colt would redo the 1903 "Pocket M" in 9mm------WOW!
Gideon, yes Kahr makes some very nice pistols. My elder son has a K40 and it is impressive. But the LS is over an 1/8" thinner and I prefer the 1911 trigger group. I also love the ability to chamber check or clear the pistol without offing the safety. YMMV
Nat