Thinking about a new Commander sized 1911.

Thinking about a new Commander sized 1911.

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    Thinking about a new Commander sized 1911.

    Time to splurge for the New Year.

    I'm looking to get my first 1911 .45 and want to go with something Commander sized, $1000ish (or under). I'll be concealed carrying at times and doing a lot of range shooting for the most part. The two main contenders are the SA SS Loaded Champion and the Dan Wesson Commander Classic Bobtail. What's everyone's opinions on them? I've read that there are some good deals floating around on scratch & dent Dan Wessons. They look like a lot of gun for the money even if I don't find a scratch & dent deal. I can't find a Dan Wesson website BTW. Does one exist?

    Both of these look like what I need on paper but I'm hoping for some good opinions out there from experienced 1911 folks.

    On a side note, what's the advantages/disadvantages of going with a 10mm if I pick up the DW? Is the extra bang worth it? Will I have a hard time finding different types of reasonably priced ammo compared to the .45?

    Thanks for any input.


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    I'd buy the Springfield out of the two you mentioned. I also would stick with the 45... 10mm is a good round, but it just aint a 1911 if its not 45acp.
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    I own a SA Champ LW loaded so any question you have feel free to ask. I like mine. No experience with a DW but the bobtail sure looks nice too.
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    I would go with the SA SS Loaded Champion.
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    Thanks for the replies,

    rocky, I also appreciate your experienced input in the other thread that I was inquiring about the SA.

    The SA seems like the safe pick, easily available and I like the lifetime warranty (hopefully won't need it). The Dan Wesson looks dang nice for the money though. Almost custom nice which has me wondering why it's so reasonably priced? Did they cut corners somewhere? I'm trying to find good specs/info on the DW but it looks like it may be slightly bigger (4.25" barrel vs the 4" SA) but maybe easier to conceal carry. Aesthetics aren't a big factor for me and both of these are pleasing to the eye but I'd have to give the nod IMO to the DW here.

    SIXTO, I guess for my first 1911, maybe I should stay a purist and stick with the .45. Both rounds should be potent enough. Is the 10mm much more difficult to shoot in terms of recoil?

    Thanks again.

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    I'd go with the Dan Wesson Commander IF you can find one.
    DW is under the roof of CZ Firearms now.
    That is one heckova huge amount of gun for the money.
    Slides and barrels are machined from bar stock on "state of the art" spanky new CNC machines.
    Perfect carry package "as is" and you'll not have to do a thing to it - as far as adding any mods is concerned.
    I have a Wesson Top End on one of my Colt frames and the machine work is flawless and their barrels are incredibly good.
    Everything is perfectly fit. Beautiful machine work on my example.



    The Commander Classic Bobtail is a 4.25” series 70 style, commander sized 1911 featuring a stainless steel frame and forged stainless steel slide. Like all Dan Wesson 1911s, Commander models incorporate top quality parts from the best names in the industry.

    ∑ Round top slide with fixed 3 dot tritium night sights
    ∑ Forged, one piece match grade barrel and bushing.
    ∑ Ed Brown Bobtail mainspring housing
    ∑ 20 LPI checkered front strap
    ∑ Hand polished flat surfaces with contrasting bead blasted rounds
    ∑ Beveled magwell
    ∑ All sharp edges dehorned by hand
    ∑ Lowered and flared ejection port
    ∑ Ed Brown memory groove grip safety
    ∑ Ed Brown slide stop
    ∑ Tactical, extended thumb safety
    ∑ Commander style match hammer
    ∑ Match grade sear
    ∑ Aluminum trigger with stainless bow
    ∑ Extended serrated magazine catch
    ∑ Wolff springs used exclusively
    ∑ Diamond checkered coco-bolo grips
    ∑ Tuned, machined, internal extractor
    ∑ test fired for reliability
    ∑ 34 ounces unloaded
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    I definately agree on choosing the DW CBOB between the two. By far the best value on the maket in 1911's.

    Here is the site by the way. CZ actually purchased Dan Wesson a while back and it apart of their site now.

    http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/pro...dan_wesson.php


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    Thanks for the great info!

    Man that that's a fine looking weapon. I've read stories of people getting scratch & dents (still basically mint/new and warranted) for around $750.

    Drool.

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    Of those two, I'd go with the Dan Wesson Commander .
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    I would also go with the DW Bobtail (my second choice would be a Para LTC), I've heard very few negitives about it (and let's face it, if you look, you'll find a negitive post or three about every gun on the market)

    As for 10mm vs .45, can't speak for your area, but around me.....10mm is hard(er) to find, and cost a fair amount more and honestly, since I'm not in L.E. the extra cost/hassel vs return wouldn't be worth it to me.

    Besides, if Im going to carry a 1911 in something other then .45, I'll save my pennies and get a Guncrafter .50 GI

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    I have the DW Cbob in 10mm and would buy the DW again .. Also i dont care for bushingless barrel like on the Springer..




    Also for 2007 they changed the front strap checkering to 25LPI instead of 20

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    Also for 2007 they changed the front strap checkering to 25LPI instead of 20
    That was/is the best move Dan Wesson could have made. I didn't know that but was going to say that the 20 LPI is about the only thing I would change on the DW's, just didn't want to sound so picky.

    I want to RZ10.

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    No opinions on those two ...My first choice is the one I went with..S&W 1911 SC (now the PD)...28 oz accurate,reliable,lifetime warranty with S&W paying freight both ways...light enough for all day carry...just my 2 cents worth...
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    Thanks for the replies everyone,

    Any other thoughts on the 10mm over the .45ACP? Is the 10mm a more versatile, potent round?

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    10mm is a Good round if loaded to full bore it starts to reach 41 Magnum I enjoy shooting my 10mm Cbob and RZ-10 i have carried both and hunted with the Rz-10

    10mm is a better hunting round for sure .


    One draw back to the 10mm is you really need to handload to shoot it a ton.

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