Champion's got a sweeeeet trigger now!!

Champion's got a sweeeeet trigger now!!

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    Talking Champion's got a sweeeeet trigger now!!

    For some time now I have been posting on the modifications to my cheaply bought Springfield GI WWII Champion and I just installed the final modification. A Cylinder & Slide Drop In Trigger Pull Kit. The kit came complete with a new hammer, sear, disconnector, hammer spring and sear/grip safety spring. All parts are EDM cut from high grade steel and highly polished to a mirror finish except for the springs. The hammer has been nicely chamfered. In keeping with my dark carry gun profile, I will apply blueing to the hammer this weekend. The EDM parts have all been Rockwell tested as noted on individual test slips for each piece and have a test dimples made by the Rockwell machine. Even the bores for the pins are highly polished. I pulled out my trusty loupe and really scrutinized the work......first class. I removed the old parts except for the hammer spring and replaced them with the C&S parts. The hammer spring that came with the kit is too long so I left the original in. Prior to the change the trigger measured an average of 6.75 lbs. After the change it averages just below 4 lbs and is super crisp. I like this weight trigger pull in a carry gun.
    I sprayed a little blueing in the sear and hammer faces to check contact and after a few hammer drops on a dummy round and disassembly I was pleased to see the wear was even across both faces.

    I am finally finished with the gun and now I can just shoot it and have a great time. It will remain my primary CCW as well.

    Has anyone else tried the C&S kits and what kind of results have you had????
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    Hi Tex
    Sounds like you're putting a real nice shooter and carry gun together with those parts you're buying! Hope to se a range report soon on your new toy!

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    Tex - sounds like a great outcome. I have no personal experience with C&S myself but have yet to hear any bad vibes.
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    havent tried one yet nor the nowlin kit i got sitting here but ill get round to it glad to hear everything fit well cant wait to see the range report

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    Thumbs up Just FYI

    William "Bill" Laughridge of Cylinder & Slide was named "Pistolsmith Of The Year" by The American Pistolsmiths Guild.
    Here Is A Link To The CYLINDER & SLIDE Web Site

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    I just saw those kits a few weeks ago in a Handgunner magazine, I was wondering how good they are. Let us know what you think once you've put a few rounds through it.
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    Range Report on Champion

    Ok folks, here's the scoop.

    I carried the gun to the range this morning. Took 200 rounds of Winchester White Box 230gr. FMJ.

    I loaded 10 magazines with 2 rounds each and shot them with no problems. Then I loaded the same 10 magazines with 4 rounds each again with no problems. The same results with 7 in each magazine. I then loaded 10 mags again with 2 in each mag again and shot the gun inverted, tilted 90 degrees to the left then the right then straight down into deep loose sand.

    Everything seems to be working great. I gotta tell you all, of all the modifications to this gun, having a great trigger is by far the best of them all. It is so much easier to hold the sights on target. I have shrunk my groups by at least 1/2" because of the consistiency and smoothness of the trigger pull.
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    Thx Tex - sounds good indeed. Cool piece.
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    Thanks P95,

    I am really happy with the results and love to show it off with pictures. I just wish I had your flair for taking gun pictures. I really am jealous of how you can take a gun that I would never own, and make it look so darn good in your pictures. I recently bought a new digital camera and hope to do a little experimenting with lighting and backdrops to enhance my gun pictures.

    Thanks again for your input & great pictures.

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    Mike - thank you kindly for your complements - I strive to do better but one problem is there is always some loss by time a pic has been ''crunched'' down in size to post.

    So - new camera eh! May I suggest in case it helps - take a browse thru a mini site I put together for THR originally - it deals with many aspects of images in general but there is a section which may help re pic-taking, exposures, depth of field etc. Feel free to go peek if you so wish.

    Image Matters

    An option for background BTW is fleece, from Wally World - I tend to stick with the red but you can get cream, gray and more. Main thing is to try most times to have a background with no distracting pattern. Mind you, lint is a big prob and usually need to ''clean up'' pics in an amage app as well as resizing.

    Feel free to ask if I can assist with any queries.
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    P95,

    Thanks for the advice. The site is well designed, easy to navigate and loaded with great info for a future Ichiro wannabe...like me!!!!

    I will use it and refer to it often.

    Thanks again,

    Mike
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    Thumbs up

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    That's a REALLY Sweet peice ya got there! I like the trigger and pebble grip concept. Where did you get the trigger system? I think I'll get one for that Defender I just picked up, cuz I can't stand the plastic trigger it has. I already have the extended slide stop and safety somewhere in my box of spare parts goodies. Sounds like you've got a winner with that gun!

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    I've been debating one of those kits. The C&S site list them at $116 IIRC. I live pretty close to Jim Stroh, one of the big time pistolsmiths. His trigger job is $100. I don't know whether or not I want to buy the kit and do it myself or pay him to do it. A good trigger is really all my Springer loaded is lacking as I can fix the sight issue (crooked in dovetail). The trigger is about 5.5 pounds now, but it has some creep, and it isn't consistant. I do really good with it at 15 yards. At 20 yards I'm okay, but beyond that I start to have problems with it.

    Stroh has a waiting list. The C&S thing could be done pretty quickly.
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    Mike - glad the site might be of some use to you.

    As I may have said anyways - any specifics with which I might be able to help - just holler!



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