1911s - Looking for some intel.
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January 10th, 2008 04:30 PM
I have a Springfield Loaded Champion and it has been flawless since day one... go with the Springer!
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
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January 10th, 2008 04:46 PM
I can't recommend a Colt. My 1918 vintage 1911 slung off it's front sight last year. I've owned it 30 years this year and have only fired thousands of rounds through it without a single mechanical failure until this. If that sight had been on there 89 years it should a' stayed put. Here's a photo of it in it's shame beside a Gold Cup.
For some reason this computer won't properly post a photo. I'm gonna send it to OD as well.
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January 10th, 2008 04:54 PM
Geez! Y'all oughta send that piece of junk to me.
Originally Posted by bmcgilvray
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January 10th, 2008 08:55 PM
If you can find a used Colt CCO (Commander slide mated to an alloy Officers Model frame), they were among the most easily concealed 1911s. I have no idea if you could find one in that price range, however; but they retailed in the late 90s for $540.
January 10th, 2008 09:51 PM
First off, thanks for everyone's replies and suggestions.
Unfortunately, I really can't afford that couple hundred more right now. Wish I could, but my income isn't very flexible at the moment. At any rate, it looks to me like Springfield is the best bet; that'll be the brand I focus on, at this point. Their mil-spec and GI models are the most frequently recommended to me for my purposes, so those are the two I'll look most closely at.
This weekend I'll check around town and see if I can find a commander-sized 1911 and a government-sized 1911 so I can get a good comparison.
A couple questions, though. Does that 1" effect how concealable the weapon is? Is steel or alloy preferable, especially regarding handling and firing control?
January 10th, 2008 10:18 PM
Thanks to Chooie for posting his AMERICAN 1911 on the AMERICAN flag!
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January 10th, 2008 11:02 PM
The lighter guns are more pleasant to carry. A shorter barrel means quicker draw speed.
If you carry it OWB, your holster might show with a GM. A commander won't show. The main issues with concealability are grip length and weapon thickness. Hopefully the store may let you try on some holsters with the gun to get a feel for it and test out what works best.
As far as weight again, steel is denser so it absorbs recoil more. Aluminum is less dense so you will feel more recoil. I carry a 28oz Kimber aluminum frame 4" 1911 chambered in the 10mm Auto and have thousands of very heavy loads in it and it is a pleasure to shoot. The only time you will notice the weight is an improper carry rig selection or after very long days (16hrs carrying or more).
January 10th, 2008 11:09 PM
I have two Kimbers that have been flawless...the Ultra CDP II and the Pro CDP II...
For your needs, you may consider the Compact CDP II which gives one the longer barrel of the Pro and the shorter grip of the Ultra...concealment would be easy.
Ya' gotta' go touch one...
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January 10th, 2008 11:27 PM
I carry a Colt CCO... Love it! It's not available new anymore, and they sell for almost twice the original MSRP.
Colt does have the "New Agent" now, which is their newest gun designed specifically for Conceal Carry.
For whatever reason, I can't find it on the Colt website, but here's another site that has good info on it:
The M-1911 Pistols Organization E-zine
MSRP is $885
January 10th, 2008 11:31 PM
BAC, after this talk if it were me and I had a $500 limit, I think I would have to go with Taurus PT-1911. I have seen them for around the $500 mark, and you get more that a base pistol. It comes with a beaver tail grip safety with the bump pad, and a good set of sights instead of the thin GI type. They are a good solid steel frame and will hold up. They are new out and do not have a lot of press out on them yet. But I do not believe you will go wrong with all the bang for the buck you are getting.
January 11th, 2008 02:34 AM
Some people say it does make a bit of difference, but I have never had a problem concealing my 5" 1911. I also like the feel and balance of the longer gun, but maybe you can find a range that has rental guns where you can try each and figure out which is right for you. For a milspec in your price range I would go with the Springfield or see if I could find a good used Colt. You would probably be satisfied with either. The 1911 offers a lot of options when later down the line you want to start adding new things. They're also easier to sneak by wives than new guns....
Originally Posted by BAC
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January 11th, 2008 07:53 AM
The Taurus 1911 mentioned by JAG45 is another option. I bought one for $480 out the door about a year ago. I bought it for an entry level 1911 for my son. Both of us have shot the crap out of it with mixed ammo, from 255gr LSWCs, to Gold Dots with zero issues. It was a **** of a deal on a "Loaded" 1911 for the money! Still to heavy for me to conceal carry comfortably, but a great shooter. I thought enough of it to change the grips-----.
January 11th, 2008 08:14 AM
I only wish it were mine! No, I'm not to the point of buying another handgun just yet, but if I were, it would be either another XD or that Dan Wesson.
Originally Posted by AZ Husker
January 11th, 2008 01:06 PM
I love my Taurus 1911
My best friend just bought a stainless Taurus 1911 and had enough money left over in his 1911 budget to pay for his Lifetime Membership in the NRA!!
IIRC he paid $599
January 11th, 2008 03:04 PM
I second the Taurus. I love mine. I think it is the best bargain in a 1911.
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