Pros and Cons of Weapon Mounted Lights

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    There probably is some cool factor for some, but for many, FOF scenario training has more to do with it than cool. After numerous FOF scenarios and complementing drills, I saw the value of the WML.

    We need to be careful about 'isolating'; i.e. picking a scenario(s) that favors a particular issue when there are extenuating circumstances often involved. E.g. how does one manage a light, a child, cell phone, etc., and a gun with only two hands?

    I agree that training with WMLs is valuable, but no more so than training in the proper use of handhelds. A snafu that was illustrated to us in a FOF scenario, was that when a person has his attention in one direction, and his gun in another, e.g. gun pointing say east as the person looks to the north or west, with or without a light, and he sees a threat, what does he do? As it was explained to us, all too ofen in the real world, the person starts shooting as he pivots toward the threat.

    So being forced to direct the gun with the light is not a bad thing, IF DONE PROPERLY. It is a bad thing to have a light pointed one direction and start shooting as we pivot to the light.
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    The "splash effect" of the WML is quite useful, too.

    If I hold my carbine in a low ready, the outer cone of the light, combined with reflection from the floor, is sufficient to identify a person without training the muzzle directly on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    You do not need to aim a flashlight to illumininate an object!
    I disagree. There are circumstances that would prevent "light spill" from sufficiently illuminating a target for identification. I've trained for both weapon mounted and off weapon light use, off weapon light use was by far the most flexible in my experience. Among other things, the most important difference to me is the ability to aim your light independent of your firearm. You can directly illuminate something without having your weapon pointed at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    I disagree. There are circumstances that would prevent "light spill" from sufficiently illuminating a target for identification. I've trained for both weapon mounted and off weapon light use, off weapon light use was by far the most flexible in my experience. Among other things, the most important difference to me is the ability to aim your light independent of your firearm. You can directly illuminate something without having your weapon pointed at it.
    I dont think we disagree at all... I agree with everything you have said. A WML is no replacement for a hand held, but as someone who does multiple building searchs every day and some one who seeks out armed people in a variety of situations weekly, the WML is a valueable tool... if you know how to use it. It isnt to be used as a simple flashlight. You can easily illuminate what you want without pointing your weapon at it, you just have to think outside of the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I dont think we disagree at all... I agree with everything you have said. A WML is no replacement for a hand held, but as someone who does multiple building searchs every day and some one who seeks out armed people in a variety of situations weekly, the WML is a valueable tool... if you know how to use it. It isnt to be used as a simple flashlight. You can easily illuminate what you want without pointing your weapon at it, you just have to think outside of the box.
    Very well then.
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    My house gun has a M-6 Streamlight flashlight/laser mounted on a Baby Eagle .40 caliber. In a self defense situation the light is bright enough to blind an intruder in my opinion rather then make me a target. I always worried about my daughter, son or wife being up and I want to be able to identify them rather then walk through the house without being able to see well. The only time I've had an occasion to use it was on a feral dog that tried to take me on at out place in the country. The laser aiming point worked great. I can't imagine clearing my house without it.
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    I think a WML is a nice option to have in addition to the handheld light. My favorite handheld, the Surefire M3 Millenium, is a formidable weapon itself. I use a Surefire X200 light that can be attached to several of my firearms. The two lights, together, cost as much as a decent autopistol, but are just as important as the pistol. Rather than go into a long dissertation, I will just say I generally agree with SIXTO's posts in this topic. I work big-city police patrol at night; using lights is a very normal thing for me. Being a country boy originally, though, I use the lights less than most of my co-workers. (less burn time)

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    Just like tracers, light's work both ways.
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