January 31st, 2008 05:02 PM
My first carry weapon
This is my first post...so don't flame me too badly. I'm kinda new at buying a pistol.
From much research I've decided to buy a 1911. I want a 4" (4 1/4)
barrel for concealment ease. I want it in 9mm because of the price of ammo, and I want it in S/S.
I read where shooters have a Colt Commander, in a 9mm, but I can't find it anywhere. All I see is the bigger calibers. If so can I get it in S/S ?
Kimber has a Pro Carry II in a 9mm, but when I try to get it in S/S it says only .45 or .40.( on their web site) That doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something here?
I realize that Kimber, has the Pro Aegis II in 9mm, and 4" barrel. I just wanted more to choose from.
Thanks for your help.
January 31st, 2008 05:17 PM
The Springfield EMP sure looks nice. 3" barrel though.
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January 31st, 2008 05:25 PM
Welcome to the forum!
Originally Posted by lebvette
Looks like a 4" 9mm 1911 is a hard thing to find....
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January 31st, 2008 05:36 PM
Welcome! I found this 9mm on GB: CASPIAN 1911 9MM, not colt agent. It looks like it could be a mid-sized 9mm on a 1911 frame.
GunBroker.com guns: CASPIAN 1911 9MM, not colt agent (item: 91170694 ends: Feb-13-08 0948 AM)
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January 31st, 2008 05:40 PM
STI has one, the Ranger II, you'd probably have to special order a stainless version.
Kimber has the regular Pro Carry II in 9mm., I think you were looking at the stainless pro Carry II, which does not come in 9mm, again, you can probably special order it in stainless.
Or, You can probably have the gun refinished to the bare stainless.
If the stainless steel is a flexible requirement, it will open up more options.
Para Ordnance has a new commander model in 9mm for '08
January 31st, 2008 06:04 PM
9mm Commanders fairly scarce
Your research so far is underscoring the fact that Commander size 1911s in 9mm are fairly scarce. I would guess that about 90% of the new and used Commander size guns are .45 ACP, and the remainder are a mix of 10mm, .40 S&W, .38 Super and 9mm. As for the reason, I could only guess that most buyers want the .45 and that fact determines what the manufacturers produce.
I can understand your preference for the cheaper 9mm practice ammo. I just bought some practice ammo at Walmart last week, and .45 is running almost $15 for a box of 50, while 9mm is about half as much.
I think that in your situation I might follow the path of least resistance, which would be to look at other 9mm handgun designs instead of the 1911, and have a wide selection to choose from. The 9mm is very popular and you'd have your choice of many brands and types. In a barrel length of 3.5 to 4.0 inches and compact dimensions for CCW, I'd look at:
- Glock 19
- Sig P228
- Sig P239
- H&K P2000sk
- S&W M&P compact
- Kahr K9 or P9
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January 31st, 2008 06:09 PM
SIG P225/P6 comes in 9mm and costs $300 to $350.... I love the gun myself.
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January 31st, 2008 06:56 PM
January 31st, 2008 07:44 PM
It sounds like you want to best of all worlds - I like that. I think you'll have an easier time finding a 1911 in .45ACP though. The EMP does seem like the best answer - I have no personal experience with them, but it is built around the 9mm cartridge.
Have you fired 9mm and compared it to .45 ACP?
January 31st, 2008 07:51 PM
Looking for a 9 mm, I would look at a Kahr P9. It's pretty simple and not too expensive.
January 31st, 2008 08:03 PM
You might have more luck getting a .45 and then buying a .22 kit for practice. Marvel and Ceiner both make them.
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February 1st, 2008 02:10 AM
One more question....is the Kimber Aegis II built around the 9mm like the Springer EMP. I really don't want something that is adapted to shoot a 9mm. In a case like that, I will probably go the extra couple hundred a year for ammo and get a .45 caliber. Either a Kimber, Springer, or Colt. They all seem to be, tic for tac, as for as followers.
February 1st, 2008 02:30 AM
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February 1st, 2008 02:46 AM
Yeah, I would...... but in my first question I stated I wanted a 4 inch barrel. As you know, the EMP only has a 3 inch.
Originally Posted by XD 45
I figure if I'm going to spend a thousand dollars on a pistol....I going to try and get what I want......try anyway. The barrel length and the fact I want it to be S/S are more important than the caliber. If I have to go with a .45 I would probably be better off in the end, but for some reason I'm stuck on the 9mm. I guess...that's from being a newbie.
February 1st, 2008 08:10 AM
Nope, the EMP is the only 1911 type firearm to date initially designed to work with the 9mm, instead of being reverse engineered to work with the 9mm.
Originally Posted by lebvette
The Para double stack 9s are kinda/sorta designed differently, but that's a whole other story.
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