Ruger LCP vs. Kahr PM9?
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I think I'd be getting the Ruger ...
February 3rd, 2008 03:12 PM
Ruger LCP vs. Kahr PM9?
This discussion was only inevitable. Might as well get it over with. "Best" choice for front pocket carry?
I think I'd be getting the Ruger if I didn't already have the Kahr.
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February 3rd, 2008 03:15 PM
Kind of hard to match them up seeing as how I don't think anyone has the Ruger LCP yet...
9mm vs. .380? I think that's an easy win for the 9mm.
As the LCP is wider than the P3AT, it doesn't seem like the currently abundant choices of P3 pocket holsters will work for the LCP, they could probably be stretched, but who knows until it can be tried.
February 3rd, 2008 04:00 PM
Well, the Ruger will be smaller and much easier to carry, but at the expense of a lesser caliber.
February 3rd, 2008 04:02 PM
Since the LCP isnt out yet, it would be more comfortable in my front pocket.
I still would choose the PM9 though.
February 3rd, 2008 04:23 PM
The only time I have an interest in pocket carry is in the winter when I'm likely to have my coat buttoned. An overcoat pocket will accomodate a lot of guns comfortably. I can see a .380 as a LE backup or deep cover gun. I wouldn't be real happy with a .380 as a main gun when I could just as easily have a 9.
It seems to me that since the Kel-Tec .380 is already available and you chose to carry the PM9, you have already answered your own question. After all, we don't yet know that the new Ruger is any better than the Kel-Tec. We do know that it isn't smaller or lighter. It can be an improvement only if it has a better trigger and is more reliable.
February 3rd, 2008 04:49 PM
I had a bad experiance early on with ruger handguns ( shot a prototype p85 i never forgave them for ) . I cannot comment good on them so i will refrain from further .
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February 3rd, 2008 05:11 PM
I would be interested. I am looking for a pocket pistol other than a Kel-Tec.
It is enough smaller than my PPK/S that it will actually fit in a front pants pocket, and it is light enough that it is practical for an ankle holster. This looks like a Carry a lot, shoot a little sort of gun.
It is competition for the Kel-Tec, NAA, and Secamp market. I've seen several Kel-Tec's malfunction at the local range that I'd be reluctant to buy one. I've gone to the store to do that twice and left with out buying one.
This one, being from Ruger, just might get the card out of the wallet.
I'd have to shoot one first though.
I've shot a PM9, did not like it much, and it is too big for my pocket. Other folks have them and love them. Probably it's just me. Kahr makes a good product. I need to shoot an MK9 once.
February 3rd, 2008 05:12 PM
0.05" wider, only. Otherwise, it's shorter, marginally taller, and still under 10oz. If they have built in the rugged Ruger reliability and durability, they might have something for those who doubt KelTec's ability in a fight. It's still .380, but then it would be a Ruger.
Originally Posted by JD
I, too, would prefer 9mm over .380, if I could find a highly reliable alternative. The Kahr PM9 is about the max size (IMO) for pocket carry. Bigger than the KelTec PF9 and the Rohrbaugh, but still pocket sized. Had one, but couldn't get it to go. So, it had to go. Too bad, as it would have been a good companion to the CZ P01 9mm. Still mulling. And while I'm doing that, the P3AT's still the go-everywhere and backup unit.
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February 3rd, 2008 05:23 PM
I have a Kahr P9. It is flawless. If the Pm9 is somewhat similar I can not imagine anything better.
February 3rd, 2008 05:26 PM
Having several Ruger revolvers, rifles, and a P89 that I gave to a step-son, I'd take the Ruger. They are built like a tank and go bang when the trigger is pulled. It's nice to see Ruger actually making a small pistol. I'm betting that it's a major seller for them.
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February 3rd, 2008 06:00 PM
Another improvement, although funky, is a manually activated slide lock.
Originally Posted by Hoot
February 8th, 2008 12:12 AM
I appreciate all of your opinions on the ongoing decision of what handguns to own. The conclusion is that there are lots of great choices. Based on all of my research I have concluded (as of today) the following:
Currently have: Beretta PX4 Storm 40 for my basic handgun. Browning Buckmark Camper for plinking and varmit shooting. Will acquire: PX4 Storm sub-compact in either 9mm or 40(if available) for basic CCW. Ruger LCP .380 for pocket or deep carry when clothing requires. I would also consider a Taurus "judge" for use on the farm. I would appreaciate your reaction to each of these selections for the noted usage.
February 8th, 2008 12:34 AM
IMO, you are trying to compare apples and oranges there.
A better comparison would be to contrast the LCP vs:
1. Kel-Tec P3AT, which it looks like a much better copy of
2. NAA Guardian .380, a great little pocket .380, but heavy for its' size
3. Seecamp LWS .380, very similar to the NAA
I've owned #1 and #2, and have put an order in for an LCP. I saw some hi-res pics of it from the SHOT show, and it looks like the fit & finish are way ahead of the Kel-Tec.
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February 8th, 2008 01:06 AM
PM9. Mine has been great but maybe I'm just lucky? It's certainly not a range gun due to somewhat snappy recoil but once you get used to it, it's decent. It takes some practice and concentration to shoot it and be good with the PM9 but it provides for some excellent practice. When you go back to your plinking/range gun, you'll appreciate it.
Seriously, IMHO it is one of the best CCW handguns around if you're looking for concealability and comfort. The 6+1 capacity may seem inadequate but the 7+1 mag is easily carried in your back pocket.
February 8th, 2008 01:50 AM
If the new little Ruger is what it's cracked up to be it's going to be a hot seller! My first response to it was it's a .380, too small. Now, I'm already planning on waiting just long enough to see if it's solid weapon and then get one for a BUG to use in my SmartCarry!
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