Condition 1 and the 1911

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    Condition 1 and the 1911

    For the more experienced, give me your opinions if you feel the 1911 is a bad carry gun unless you carry in condition 1. I ask because I have not been comfortable in condition 1 and carry in condition 3. I practice regularly with israeli draw and firing but wonder if I should keep my 1911s for pistol shoots and get a glock 30 for carry?
    Thanks for you thoughts

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    Well knowing how I am I would have to just get the glock if I couldn't carry "cocked and Locked", but thats just me. Which I just got a 1911 yesterday so we will see how it works out.

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    Perform Search Fu for Israeli Style and you will learn it was also do to the amount of old, second hand firearms of dubious maintenance levels Israel had inherited. There were real concerns about the safety of these weapons in condition one and there was a need to train many people quickly. The answer... Condition 3.

    You do not have that problem. Get a quality 1911, practice with it and carry Condition 1 as it was meant to be carried.

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    Incidents involving guns are often over in a couple of seconds with only a couple of rounds fired. Likely ourtcome: dead on the floor holding a safe-to-carry condition 3 1911. Dennis

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    If in a worst case scenario, you can only use one hand, how will you chamber a round?

    Chamber a snap cap into your UNLOADED 1911 and carry it around the house in condition one. The hammer won't accidentally fall. Trust your equipment.
    Be ready. You can't make an appointment for an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisE View Post
    Incidents involving guns are often over in a couple of seconds with only a couple of rounds fired. Likely ourtcome: dead on the floor holding a safe-to-carry condition 3 1911. Dennis
    My concerns exactly!

    G&G
    "Chamber a snap cap into your UNLOADED 1911 and carry it around the house in condition one. The hammer won't accidentally fall."

    Great suggestion

    Thanks and keep em comming.

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    If you are uncomfortable you can follow the cap advice or some are never comfortable with it and go to a weapon with a decocking lever so the first squeeze is heavy and then light for follow up shots.

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    Or, you can get a revolver...Like the Tagmeister (Me)!
    Ok, it's still on layaway, but technically it's mine...kinda.
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    This topic has been discussed in depth.
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...dangerous.html

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    The 1911 is my favorite auto pistol for carry both because of .45 ACP and, more importantly for "condition one". If I couldn't carry it cocked and locked I'd have to leave it at home. My brain just doesn't wrap itself around any other method of carry for the 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45ATB View Post
    For the more experienced, give me your opinions if you feel the 1911 is a bad carry gun unless you carry in condition 1. I ask because I have not been comfortable in condition 1 and carry in condition 3. I practice regularly with israeli draw and firing but wonder if I should keep my 1911s for pistol shoots and get a glock 30 for carry?
    Thanks for you thoughts
    If the "hidden" cocked hammer (striker) of the G30 assuages your anxiety, then do so by all means. I think you'll save yourself some dough by getting comfortable with condition 1. You could just carry around the house with your pistol c&L on an empty chamber and find out nothing's going to happen if you don't have shoddy equipment.
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    My first carry pistol (not revolver) was a Colt 1911. I used a Davis holster with a thumbreak. It blocked the hammer and I felt comfortable with it. Eventually, I realized it just didn't matter. It's a psychological thing, seeing the hammer cocked. Try some of the things the previous posters have suggested. Until your comfy with it, try a TB holster like this #77 "Tortilla" Holster

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    Thanks Jack
    I did a search and must have overlooked that one. There is some real good info in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45ATB View Post
    Thanks Jack
    I did a search and must have overlooked that one. There is some real good info in there.
    No problem, I thought it would help.

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEC View Post
    This topic has been discussed in depth.
    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...dangerous.html

    Jack
    Thanks for posting that link Jack, that's probably the best thread on the subject matter.

    Post 29: http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...94-post29.html was actually copied over to the reference forum IIRC...

    Quote Originally Posted by 45ATB View Post
    Thanks Jack
    I did a search and must have overlooked that one. There is some real good info in there.

    The search tool has been acting a little funny lately, there are plenty of pretty good threads on this topic, dig in and enjoy.

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ition-2-a.html (Still open)

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...ed-1911-a.html

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...st-cocked.html

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...you-carry.html

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-carrying.html

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...lf-cocked.html

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...1911-long.html


    The links provided in this post and as posted by JEC, should answer most if not all of the OPs questions.

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