Range Report: PPK/S, P232, 360M&P

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    Range Report: PPK/S, P232, 360M&P

    I went to the range on Saturday with a Walther PPK/S, a Sig P232, and a S&W 360M&P. I wanted to see comparitively, how well I shoot with each.

    I setup a 30 round qualifier with 3, 5, and 10 yard shots. For both autos, 1 mag at 3 yards instinctive double taps (DA/SA), with 2 shots from the weak hand. 2 magazines from 5 yards aimed double taps, with 2 shots from the weak hand, and 1 magazine + 2 rounnds at 10 yards, all strong hand.

    For the revolver, the setup was modified to account for 5 shot capacity. 10 shots from 3 yards, all double taps, with 2 shots from the weak hand, all instinctive. At 5 yards, 15 shots double taps, 2 from the weak hand, and at 10 yards, 5 shots double tap from the strong hand. All revolver shots were double action.

    The targets were Plumfire Press S-4, a black silouhete with orange center. Rings from 7 to 10 points. The max possible score for my 30 round shootout was 300 points.

    The S&W 360 had the lowest score, which is not surprising. 202 points out of a possible 300, or 67%.

    With the Sig P232 I achieved a score of 233 out of 300, or 78%. I had trouble with the Sig sights shooting high. Many of the shots were centered, but ended up in the 8 ring. Most certainly an operator error.

    With the PPK/S, the score was 265 out of 300, or 88%. I feel certain this was due to the sights being dead on, and the fact that the PPK/S fits my hand better.

    Next, I decided to do a best of 14 shootout between the Sig and the PPK. This would involve one magazine change, all shot from strong hand at 5 yards.

    Using the Sig, I now "corrected" the operator error, and shot 137 out of a possible 140, or 98%.

    The PPK/S delivered a score of 136 out of 140, or 97%.

    This was a fun and interesting exercise that gives me a good baseline of how well I operate each weapon, and my limitations with each.

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    Ammunition?

    The S&W 360 is a .357 magnum gun. You didn't mention if you were shooting .357 magnums or .38 specials in your test. This could influence the speed and accuracy of shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogo2 View Post
    The S&W 360 is a .357 magnum gun. You didn't mention if you were shooting .357 magnums or .38 specials in your test. This could influence the speed and accuracy of shooting.
    .38 Special - I can't claim the problem is the ammo.

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    How do you like the 360? I am thinking about making it my first wheel gun. what is you thoughts on the 360?

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    I like the 360

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyrigger View Post
    How do you like the 360? I am thinking about making it my first wheel gun. what is you thoughts on the 360?
    I own both 360 models, the 360Sc and the 360 M&P. I think the 360 M&P is a great revolver. Nice size and weight for ccw. Personally, I would not recommend or buy another 360Sc. Titanium cylinders just do not hold up well to repeated use in my experience. My 360Sc is less than a year old and already shows excessive wear inside the cylinder.

    If you plan on shooting many +p or 357 rounds, its probably not the revolver you want. IMO, for value, the 637 is a good choice. Its only 1 ounce more than the 360 M&P, but less $$$.

    I do recommend the 360 M&P though, if you want a light weight ccw choice. The XS big dot sight is very good.

    Note that I removed the stupid trigger locks on both revolvers. Not needed nor wanted.

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