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Kel-Tec PF-9, 9MM Single Stack mag. 7+1, Blued $333.00
Kahr PM9093N, 9MM 7+1, $890.00
February 14th, 2008 01:37 AM
I am looking to get a new CCW for my self. So which one do ya'll like better and why?
February 14th, 2008 01:39 AM
I like DAO autoloaders. Unholster, point, click, boom. I like Sigs personally.
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February 14th, 2008 02:25 AM
Lighter and thinner.
Be sure to break in, keep properly lubed, and practice as much as possible.
Both have their problems 'out of box', KT probably more, but with the weight difference (read; harder to shoot, again practice as much as possible) that's not a surprise.
Good luck on whatever you choose.
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February 14th, 2008 04:43 AM
I have no expirience with the KelTecs, but I do own a PM9.
If the KelTec is reliable and feeds what you want to shoot in it and has a European style magazine release instead of the thumb release it would get my vote as long as it's a 9mm and not a .380 Auto.
My PM9 has been 100% reliable. I know they have gotten a bad "rap" for requiring a break in period but what the heck. I'm "old school" and every "bottomfeeder" needs a break in period, or did until Glocks came out on the market.
That reminds me, I have a new 1911 I need to break in. My break in procedure for 1911's is as follows:
Clean gun and oil it
shoot 250 rounds
clean and oil gun
shoot 250 rounds
clean gun and oil it
now shoot 200 rounds of "carry ammo"
If I can get the gun to shoot 200 rounds of carry ammo without a jam, malfunction or other problem I will clean and oil it again and be good to go. If I have a problem I will have to diagnose the problem and then start at round one all over again for my carry ammo. That my friend can get quite exspensive, but to me it's worth it. Plus, I can deduct the bullets and range fees off my taxes.
February 14th, 2008 05:37 AM
Biker, how can you clam bullets and range fees on your Taxes?
February 14th, 2008 06:06 AM
From your choice...the KelTec...less costly dependability!
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February 14th, 2008 06:55 AM
buisiness expense, itemized deductions, training materials/classes.
Originally Posted by johnnyrigger
February 14th, 2008 09:40 AM
Price is a major factor for me, so Kel-Tec wins
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February 14th, 2008 09:55 AM
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February 14th, 2008 09:58 AM
I've been very happy with my P3AT - it is reliable and accurate for it's size. I would go for the PF9.
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February 14th, 2008 10:02 AM
The Kahr points more naturally for me, and I'm partial to their smooth (though not short) trigger. I also feel that once they are broken in, they are exceptionally accurate.
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February 14th, 2008 10:05 AM
I voted for the Kahr but personally I would look at the Sig P239.
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February 14th, 2008 10:52 AM
I will buy quality everytime.
BTW, the PM9 sells for a lot less than $890...
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February 14th, 2008 11:10 AM
Kel-tech! It's thinner, lighter and less expensive. Someone at Khar came up with the idea that prices must be high to be taken seriously. WRONG! Kahr is not in the same class as Kimber and is very much over-priced. You'll enjoy your Kel-Tech!
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February 14th, 2008 11:10 AM
IMHO - the PF9 wins on price. Mine has been very dependable with all ammo except reloads and disappears, along with two mags in an IWB holster. Comparatively, my 5" 1911 in an IBW holster prints unless I have a big shirt or jacket over the top.
Some people have success with the KelTek right out of the box. I shot about 100 rounds of practice ammo then cleaned the gun and spent about an hour buffing out any sharp edges and polishing the feed ramp. The gun has over 1200 rounds through it and I've recorded two jams with reloaded ammo (my fault). Keep it clean and well-lubed and it seems to be a good return on your money.
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