New (to me) Glock 21

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    New (to me) Glock 21

    Well, after deliberating for quite a while, I finally sold my XD45 and bought a lightly used 3rd gen Glock 21 (.45 ACP) this afternoon. It seems to be in really nice shape, and doesn't look to have been fired much. I'll pick it up sometime early this week. It will compliment my G17 very nicely.
    The XD was nice, but I basically soured on the idea of carrying it due to some jamming issues that I experienced shortly after I bought it. Although it seemed to run just fine for the last 300 rounds or so, I never really regained confidence in the gun after that, and I never really felt comfortable when I carried it. Also, once I started practicing a lot with the G17, I realized the grip angle and trigger felt a lot more natural to me than the XD's did.
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    Congrats...on your new purchase...
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    Congrats! I hear a lot about people switching to the XD from the Glock. But you don't hear a whole lot about people switching back to the Glock's from the XD's. I'm glad you found what works for you and stuck with it!
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    gotta say this... my new g21 is a shooter. I might be a changed man !
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    Congrats on the purchase, I've owned a few and liked them all. I am planning on picking up a 21SF sometime soon.
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    Congratulations !! G21's kick butt. you won't regret it.
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    Well, the dealer that I purchased my new G21 from called me today, and told me it was ready to be picked up (I have had delays on the last two guns I've purchased, for some reason). Of course, I went and got it right away this afternoon ;-)
    The gun was really gunked up with some unknown crap; it almost looked as if someone had spilled soda or something sticky on it. If I had to guess, though, I'd say it had no more than 200 rounds through it; there was no holster wear or scratches on the frame or slide, either.
    I field stripped it, gave it a quick once over, and took it to the range to check it out. I put 100 rounds flawless rounds through it, and I get the same warm, fuzzy, I-just-can't-miss feeling from the G21 as I do from my G17. I don't know what the deal was with my XD, but I always felt as if I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. My only regret about switching to the Glock .45 is that I didn't do it a lot sooner ;-)
    And once I got the G21 home, I stripped it down and gave it a thorough cleaning. After I got all the gunk and dust off of it, I saw that it's actually in like-new condition and has hardly a mark on it. I got the gun for $425 out the door, too; I think I did pretty good.




    The obligatory shot of the "stable".


    One of the targets from a range session with my G17. It looks like crap, but I was practicing fast point-shooting at the figure. I took my time with the bullseyes, and shot the upper ones with the target up against the backstop (pretty sure it's 100 feet). I felt that it was the best shooting I had done to date.


    And this was from today, with the G21. My point shooting looked a little better, as did my bullseye shooting. The lower two bullseyes were at 21 feet, but the rest of them were all the way back against the backstop. I thought I did well, especially since it was the first time ever firing my new pistol. The longer distance groups would probably have been twice that size with my XD45.

    So yeah, you guys were right when you talked about finding what works for you ;-)
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    For $425, you made a killer of a deal! Congratulations and best of luck, and keep that "warm fuzzy feeling".

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    Heck of a report.

    You are really making me want one bad.
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    The XD was nice, but I basically soured on the idea of carrying it due to some jamming issues that I experienced shortly after I bought it. Although it seemed to run just fine for the last 300 rounds or so, I never really regained confidence in the gun after that, and I never really felt comfortable when I carried it.
    Tut tut...

    You are aware that most manufacturers reccomend a 300 round break in period for a new handgun right?

    It sounds like you got rid of a good gun for a bad reason. A common mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Tut tut...

    You are aware that most manufacturers reccomend a 300 round break in period for a new handgun right?

    It sounds like you got rid of a good gun for a bad reason. A common mistake.
    I talked to someone at Springfield about the jamming issue, and was told they recommend a 750 round break in period. Also, I was told that JHP ammo is NOT recommended, and to use ball ammo only. I didn't know how I was going to get them to repair my gun, when the majority of the jamming issues occurred with ammo that was not recommended by the manufacturer. There was no way I was going to carry a gun that would only shoot ball ammo, .45 ACP or not, when the modern JHP ammo is so superior.
    Another reason I sold it was that the slide was getting some corrosion in the machined grip areas, which is apparently common on Bi-Tone XDs, and I was concerned that it'd be a recurring problem.
    I also just didn't shoot it very well, and I don't know if it was just me, the gun, or both. I do know that I feel much more confident with my new G21, and shoot it much better than i did my XD.
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    Sounds like a good choice on your part and that's a great price. My buddy calls his G21 "The Master Blaster". It is a great shooter.

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    I also just didn't shoot it very well, and I don't know if it was just me, the gun, or both. I do know that I feel much more confident with my new G21, and shoot it much better than i did my XD.
    Thats just the way it is with some guns. Thats why its important to try them out first if at all possible.

    As long as you're sastified with it and can shoot it well,thats the most important thing.The Glock will serve you well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Thats just the way it is with some guns. Thats why its important to try them out first if at all possible.

    As long as you're sastified with it and can shoot it well,thats the most important thing.The Glock will serve you well.
    Yeah, it's funny how you learn that stuff the hard way. My friend had his carry permit, and he carried a standard 4" XD45; he had nothing but good things to say about it, as did a lot of other people I talked to about them. I know there are a lot of people on DC who love their XDs as well...one of those things, I guess.

    I just looked up my G21's serial number prefix, and it comes back early 2000. It's got less wear on the outside of the barrel than my almost brand new G17 does at 500 rounds. Someone must have just tossed it in a drawer somewhere and forgot about it or something...hmm.
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    I talked to someone at Springfield about the jamming issue, and was told they recommend a 750 round break in period. Also, I was told that JHP ammo is NOT recommended, and to use ball ammo only. I didn't know how I was going to get them to repair my gun, when the majority of the jamming issues occurred with ammo that was not recommended by the manufacturer. There was no way I was going to carry a gun that would only shoot ball ammo, .45 ACP or not, when the modern JHP ammo is so superior.
    Another reason I sold it was that the slide was getting some corrosion in the machined grip areas, which is apparently common on Bi-Tone XDs, and I was concerned that it'd be a recurring problem.
    I also just didn't shoot it very well, and I don't know if it was just me, the gun, or both. I do know that I feel much more confident with my new G21, and shoot it much better than i did my XD.
    Have you made a post about this for all the other XD owners/fans out there? You should you know---this site's about information and helping a fellow brutha out ya know? Granted one's dislikes about a pistol are one thing, but if the factory folks are telling you THAT---geez whiz! 750 rounds break-in, hardball ammo only? Dude--this message really needs to get out and if you're not willing to do it, I might help!
    I hope you are telling the truth because I've already spread the word.
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