This is a discussion on Bhp within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by ka0azs
One of the things I like about this board, we can agree to disagree and not degenerate into a flame war ...
September 15th, 2005 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by ka0azs
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September 15th, 2005 09:26 PM
Remove a Safety Mechanism?
I gotta say, well first off, I like the mag disconnect on MY BHP. And it makes NO sense to remove the thing. One of the certitudes of modern jurisprudence is that one must not ever modify a safety mechanism on a firearm so that it is rendered inoperable. You're just screaming for a culpable negligence lawsuit, or worse use as evidence in a manslaughter trial.
Originally Posted by Team American
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September 16th, 2005 07:42 AM
I don't have any digital pics of my Hi-Power with the longer barrel installed in the shorter slide, but I found these photos online showing the difference between a standard slide and a detective slide.
September 16th, 2005 08:44 AM
I carry IWB so wouldn't get much benefit out of the decreased slide length. But it does look neat and I'd probably get one if the right deal came along when I had available funds.
Originally Posted by HiWayMan
I had heard that recoil springs for the "Detective" slides don't hold up under extended use and that replacements are hard to get. Does your experience confirm or deny that?
September 16th, 2005 09:52 AM
I can neither confirm or deny. I've had mine for about two years now with 4000+ rounds thru it and there are no signs of the recoil springs needing replaced yet. I may have to look into finding some replacements at some point, but it really isn't a concern at this time.
September 16th, 2005 10:08 AM
It may not make any sense, but it sure improved the trigger pull
Originally Posted by ExSoldier762
But your point is well taken...I debated about doing this modification for that very reason. Have you heard of any specific case where negligence was determined for removing the magazine safety on a Bhp? I can see it if, as an example, someone was shot because they thought the gun was unloaded with the magazine removed (the original reason for the magazine disconnect), but the mag disconnect wouldn't play any part in an actual gunfight...I would want my attorney to argue that increased accuracy due to a better trigger pull was actually safer....we are not talking about a hair-trigger here. Pull is still in the 4-5 pound range.
But it is food for thought!
Last edited by Team American; September 16th, 2005 at 10:25 AM.
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September 16th, 2005 10:21 AM
No but undoing safety cant be a good thing in court and most sheeple will deff not see if your way
September 16th, 2005 11:09 AM
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HWM - thx for comparitive pics - great - easy to see difference.
Must say much as I like the std full length config', that shorter version looks very nice indeed - seems to almost have a better balance and certainly could be great for carry.
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