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I turned 45 on the 6th. Thought that I'd do something that I've not ...
March 7th, 2008 04:01 PM
No, not a new Glock for me, but an interesting experience.
I turned 45 on the 6th. Thought that I'd do something that I've not done before. That is..finally Shoot a Glock 10mm.
Having shot 9mm, .40 and .45 Glocks over the years, but never a G20 or G29.
Trying out a Glock 10 seemed like something I had to do.
My mother went with me to the local indoor range for our 2nd annual get together there.
After signing the paperwork and paying for the range fee/rental Glock 20 and
one of the shop's few boxes of Speer/CCI (produced locally in Lewiston, Idaho) 200 grain TMJ practice ammo.
We put on the shooting protection and set forth.
Upon entering the shooting bay. I loaded up a 15 round magazine with 7 rounds and loaded the big G20.
I have medium sized hands for a guy.. but long westphalian fingers like a pianist. As always , the G20 grip felt too big for me, but not so overly large that it was awkward for me to grasp/shoot.
At distance of approx 17 yards/ my first shot was one of only 20 with this
The glock trigger was muck akin to a G19's five pound pull. The first shot broke cleanly... and the rather sedate 200 grain slug punched a nice hole in the target a bit lower than the center bullseye.
However, even though this was sub sonic ( or close ) ammo. My trigger finger didn't like the Glock at all. Basically, the recoil stung my finger and recoil translated to my pounding/stinging my entire hand.
My reaction to this was to keep shooting..telling my self that this wasn't
so bad to be unbearable.
The next 6 shots mirrored the first, but my hand continued to sting and
it was becoming less fun by the time the mag ran dry.
I've owned and shot .44 magnums that were far more pleasant for me
Having owned a Witness 10mm for about 8 years now, I'm no stranger
to the cartridge in either hot handloads or performance/ hunting ammo like
I remarked to my Mother.. that the gun was not pleasant for me, making a mental note that this wasn't as bad as the hot 180 in a G22, but close
enough to make this outing uncomfortable. The then newly introduced
Glock .40 was downright brutal on me. A shooting pain ( no pun)
through my trigger finger, and hand, up my arm and into my neck.
Funny thing, I was scary accurate with this thing that was pounding me.
But by round 20, I'd had enough, and packed up the G20.
We went back into the shop and I Told that Range Master that I wasn't having much fun.
I then rented the Glock 17 and returned to shooting.
MUCH better on recoil than the G20, but as a well used range gun.
Had a long and spongy trigger that was hard to get any decent
accuracy from. I much prefer a 5.5 or even heavier trigger on
Glocks. The 9mm had low recoil, but my hand was still stinging
from the mighty 10.
The fact that i have the muscular disease Fibromyalgia. Probably contributed to my reaction to the G20s recoil.
Having asked people on GT and elsewhere on forums about the recoil with a
G20 or any Glock 10mm, and always had varied replies on the subject.
I'd not want to shoot any of my rather hot handloads, or prefered DT
ammo in a Glock.
I'd have to say that as a Glock fan. The Glock 10mm wasn't my cup of tea, but I can sure see why people dearly love the G17/19s and the soft shooting
9 x 19 cartridge.
March 7th, 2008 06:35 PM
That sure is one heck of an explicative range report! Glad you got the opportunity to test something you've felt the need to. I've never shot the G20 myself, nor any pistol chambered for the 10mm. I'll admit to being undereducated about Fibromyalgia, and how it might relate to your shooting experience. I will however say that for me and my shooting with the Glocks that I have, I'm able to shoot any loading comfortably so long as I have a 'superglue grip' around the finger-groove frame of the latest design, hold it the highest possible on the tang, only let the trigger go to reset and not bounce, and always have the strong arm elbow locked. I could shoot them all day long like that, even with fourth of July loads! You can also rest assured that being the Glock fan that you are, there is no sin in disliking any of the models that don't fit you well, or give other than stellar experiences. I've never had a problem with recoil in anything, but the G21 and G30 just couldn't live up to my expectations for the 'go-to' platform for the 45acp either. I went to SIG on that one and love it.
Glad you got the opportunity, and one last thing----------------------------------
March 7th, 2008 06:48 PM
Thanks, I had a G30 for a short while. Found that the grip was too big for me, but recoil wasn't a problem for me.
I think the G30 SF might be much better for people that have grip issues with the
larger framed Glocks.
March 7th, 2008 06:57 PM
I had a G30 for a short while. Found that the grip was too big for me, but recoil wasn't a problem for me.
I think you're right. I'd say I'll try it out in the near future, but one never knows what other opportunities may arise before then. After the last gun show I attended, and held the G36--I'm not quite sure as to whether I'd go ahead with the 6+1 despite the improvements elicited on the G30 in the SF model. That G36 is pretty thin, and feels good IMO! Matter of fact, it may very well complete me as a human being.
I think the G30 SF might be much better for people that have grip issues with the larger framed Glocks.
March 7th, 2008 07:03 PM
I've always found both Glock 10s to be rather easy to shoot. Much easier than a DE I've used. Your condition is more than likely, contributing to the discomfort with them. I have a good friend with Fibromyalgia that is pretty much limited to .22s these days. She shoots them pretty well though. Good report, thanks.
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