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    My fiance carries an XD compact, and she has a full size XD 9mm.

    I used to carry a Sig 228, or a 229, or my 225.

    All great guns I have personal Tastes that shifted me away from SIG to GLOCK. but either one of those guns comes down to ergonomics/shootability for you Not me.

    One of the downside to XD is if your gun breaks it generally goes back to the Factory. SIG can be repaired by one of your many SIG armorers floating around the country at your local gunshop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herknav View Post
    Funny. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I was at the State Department in December, and the DSS was carrying K-frame Smith & Wessons. I actually asked one of them about it, and he said they would be transitioning to the Beretta shortly.

    Even funnier, a quick look at Wikipedia says they shoot the Sig 228 & 229, having retired their S&W Model 19's around 1993.
    Those where probably uniformed Security. Also, alot of those security agents have to carry what the contract calls for.

    There not really agents there more like security guards.
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    I'm not an XD fan for a lot of reasons, but I am a Sig fan for a lot of reasons too.
    If you are comfortable with the XD, you could have made a lot worse of a choice. Its a good gun for what it is.
    I have to say though, once you upgrade to a Sig and get used to it, the XD will be a distant memory.
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    Any agent in the sense that it deserves italicization is probably allowed to carry from a list of selected weapons. I will tell my dad to be on the watch, and next training he will inquire from Homeland Security and next escort we will find out what the Secret Service carries. =D

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    looking to go to either the p226 or the p229 for a carry weapon when my birthday comes around in a lil over a month. So my XD maybe getting traded to another team when I aqquire the Sig but it depends on the price and feel of the gun and everything.
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    Secret Service agents carry Sig P229s in .357 Sig. DSS agents carry Sig P228/229s in 9mm, loaded with 124gr Hydra-Shok. DEA agents can carry most of the Glock and Sig models, though the sub-compacts are not authorized for "duty" carry. FBI is primarily Glock. Army CID carries the Sig P228 (M11) in 9mm. Homeland Security is HUGE, and had a large number of separate law enforcement agencies underneath it, most of which use Glock and/or Sig. Glock and Sig completely dominate the federal law enforcement community.

    Special units within each of these agencies may carry other weapons, but the "standard" agent will have these as their assigned (and only authorized duty) weapons.
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    as far as what departments carry I think it's more political then "real world" and police use guns in different ways then we lowly civilians would probably use it.
    Department I help out with has been with Beretta since the W's when I first came on and now are transferring to Glock 21. Going from 9mm to 45acp. From a sa/da (always kept in da with safety off) Talk about an upheavel...
    Range instructor isn't even very sure why, when. I know most of the beretta's are over 10 years old and when your buying for 100 officers and back ups for us auxiliaries thats lots of guns...

    Point is if you want to find out what works for you you almost have to buy both and try them both. Not until you've broken them in will you probably know. Or you could just carry both??

    I love my 4 primary guns, but I only carry 2 about 85% of the time. I save the one when I'm with my wife and family and the other when it's summer and I'm just running to the store in shorts.

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    Didn't the FBI just finish doing some tests on new 1911s (that's not a typo) for their agents?? Most were dis-inchanted with the 9mm round and wished to go back to 45acp. Colt, Springfield and a few others put up some test guns and after the tests were done they picked the new Springfields. Colt is disputing I think due to the fact they had to use Remington ammo...I'll try to find it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Cloud View Post
    Didn't the FBI just finish doing some tests on new 1911s (that's not a typo) for their agents?? Most were dis-inchanted with the 9mm round and wished to go back to 45acp. Colt, Springfield and a few others put up some test guns and after the tests were done they picked the new Springfields. Colt is disputing I think due to the fact they had to use Remington ammo...I'll try to find it.




    Here it is...SPRINGFIELD ARMORY
    I was under the impression that was for the HRT/SRT teams only.
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    Ah, you're right...
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    I also believe that the FBI 1911 trials were for HRT only. The field agents are, by and large, carrying Glocks. They have been "disenchanted" with the 9mm round since at least the Miami shoot out, and have been using a .40 inch diameter round of one stripe or another since the big tests afterwards (again, for the most part).

    I know that USSS and DSS use one and only one (unless you count the P228 and P229 as two) weapon system for their "regular" agents.
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    I currently own four Sigs. Something to look at if you are concerned about what agencies use which pistol is the selection process. The department I used to work for has held pistol trials twice since our original one to transition from revolvers. The only part of the competition Sig did not win out right or tie for first was the cost per unit. So thanks to the bean counters our officers had Berettas then Glocks.
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    I've got a couple of XD 45s I traded-out for some work I did for someone.

    Got several SIGs, P230, P232, a couple of P226s and a couple of P229s including my carry piece, a P229 DAK SAS.

    XDs are fine weapons ... but they are no SIGs. For the money however, the XD is one of the best deals going, especially with their accessories packages, that you will find. Good shooters, accurate, slick and durable. And they'll eat anything you feed them. I roll my own and have tried to hang-them-up to no avail. They even like cast boolits.

    But SIG is the Lexus (or BMW if you will) of the handgun manufacturers imho.
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    Oh man, 72 to 72. Come on XD!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by philman View Post
    Oh man, 72 to 72. Come on XD!!!
    73 to 73 now

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