Just called a gun dealer about the Ruger LCP

[crzy4guns]

Maybe when the Kahr P380 comes out the demand will ease up on the LCP making them more readily available.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[Quonset Hut]

Some of the most lame, uninformed crap I've ever heard from someone who "should know" has been over a gun shop counter. The only part of that I would believe is "He doesn't have any".

[DistantHorizon]

Quonset Hut> Your sentiment matches my experience. Usually, when I ask a question to 3 different guys behind the counter, I'll get 3 different responses - even at the same gun shop. But here, most points seem pretty accurate:

• Kel-Tec did NOT patent their design which is why Ruger was able to copy it. - I'm no expert on patent law, but that's the consensus. The Kel-Tec was based on its predecessor Grendel, neither were patented, Ruger copied the Kel-Tec.
• Ruger made it better and prettier. - Definitely prettier by all accounts. Better? Have to wait on more range reports & personal experiences.
• He has none. - I'll take his word for it.
• They are backordered by 100,000 units. - I dunno.
• He thinks the wait time may be up to a year. - His best guess. Who knows?
• I might be able to get one at a gun auction site but pay a premium. - Yup.
• The street price is about $300, but because of the demand, I might be able to get one on the auction sites for about $350. - Pretty close; gunbroker's completed auctions are from $325 to $430. Add shipping & your FFL's transfer fee.

But I quit asking many questions at the gun shops, for precisely the reason you mentioned. I generally research the internet and take it all with a grain of salt.

[Ivan4x4]

I want one !

[luvmy40]

But I quit asking many questions at the gun shops, for precisely the reason you mentioned. I generally research the internet and take it all with a grain of salt.

One of the local shops here still insists that Taurus has not released the SS PT1911 yet.
All that I ever ask the dealers is "What's your price?" and "Do you have it in stock?"

I may wait to get my wife that SP101 until I can take a look at the LCP.

[ppkheat]

I saw one for sale at the gun show in Dallas yesterday (Sunday), the price was marked at $389 IIRC. Sunday afternoon and it was still sitting there. I left it sitting there too, and I'll wait however long I need to until the price falls. Right now it's a "supply and demand" deal.....but I can wait it out.

It was interesting to hold it, and it felt pretty much like a p3at. I hope the "reliability" problems have been solved.

[GC]

What reliability issues do you refer to?

[chachy]

I had heard from my dealer that the LCP's were on hold by Ruger, until an issue is resolved.

[tns0038]

Until someone takes a few (more than one or two) Ruger LCP to the range and fires 500 plus rounds through them without a malfunction, I don’t see that they have any advantage over a Kel-Tec P3AT.


Sure, Ruger has an excellent name, but I’ve never had a failure, or jam with my second generation Kel-Tec 380. So, long story short, I don’t see what all the hype is all about.