Dry Firing Keltec

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    Dry Firing Keltec

    Keltec says not to, I've seen plenty of people on here that say not too, I've even seen a post of someone saying that their firing pin break. My question is...why? Obviously it's bad on the firing pin, but how? I can dry fire my XD all day long apparently (it's required to disassemble it actually).

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    Use snap caps. They are inexpensive. Like chicken soup, it may not help, but it couldn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardCohodas View Post
    Use snap caps. They are inexpensive. Like chicken soup, it may not help, but it couldn't hurt.
    Not a problem, just curious as to the mechanics of why it's bad to dry fire a Keltec.

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    VtCO, the reason its a bad idea to dry fire most weapons because the firing pin is thrown forward to impact the primer - when nothing is there it tries to keep going and whatever the design has to restrain the pin stops it short and puts a great deal of stress on the firing pin - often, enough force to break the pin. Continued dry firing will, sooner or later, break the pin unless the weapon was specifically designed to allow dry firing. Hope this helps.
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    It does, thanks. I've just been curious about it.

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    In the case of the keltec, the thing that stops the striker in absence of a round is a screw. Dry firing will wear a spot off of the screw allowing the striker to launch out of the barrel. Someone here just posted that it happened to them within that last couple of weeks. This also makes it very difficult to remove and replace the screw.
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    KT's also have hammers, XD's do not. That might be some of the issue with them. I think there was something other than the firing pin that gets hammered when dry firing. Some screw or something.

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    Someone here just posted that it happened to them within that last couple of weeks
    Yeah...that was me.
    And Cupcakle is right. It makes it nearly impossible to remove the screw, I suspect it peens itself on the broken end.
    I stripped mine out real quick like. If I wasnt a Machinist I couldnt have gotten it out. Since I have a milling machine,sine vise, the right drills and taps, I was fortunate to be able to correct the problem.Otherwise, I would have had to send it back to the factory.

    Most guns can stand the dry firing. Apparently the Kel Tec cant.
    It will launch the broken pin with enough force to easily go through an eyeball or something. Mine stuck in the wall.
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    Do not dry fire a Keltec with out snap caps, the firing pin will break.

    Now when it comes to XD, well that is a problem as well, the roll pin will break in half and you will not be able to firing your weapon.

    I used a homemade snap cap with an eraser as a primer, do not do this!
    When the roll pin broke the firing pin under spring tension keep the firing pin in the primer pocket and would not allow the slide to eject the round.

    I had to strike the end of the slide with the butt of my hand to finally retract slide and ejecting the round.

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    You broke one too eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    You broke one too eh?
    Geez you're going to make me say it !
    Yes in the Keltec P11 and the XD to boot.

    Use Real Snap Caps !!

    Replace the roll pin in the firing pin assembly every 6 months or so as dry fire practice is important for everyone.
    This being said take extra caution in dry fire practice.
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    I called Smith and Wesson and specifically asked them about dry firing my Sigma and they told me to dry fire as much as I want, it wouldn't hurt the weapon at all.

    What about Glocks? Are they ok to dry fire?

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    with the p3at i would not dry fire it much. once or twice after a cleaning will not hurt. but some peoples like to dry fire 100's of times. this could be bad for the firing pin on the p3at.
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    The firing pin retaining screw restricts the forward travel or the firing pin. Dry firing at first pings the screw, making it hard or almost impossible to remove (to properly clean). Later it allow the firing pin to impact the 'firing pin hole, or face causing the pin to potentially break. USE SNAP CAPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecheat View Post
    I called Smith and Wesson and specifically asked them about dry firing my Sigma and they told me to dry fire as much as I want, it wouldn't hurt the weapon at all.

    What about Glocks? Are they ok to dry fire?
    I dry fire my Glock all the time. Never a problem.
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