The Wild West ~ The Famous Sleeve Gun

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    Question The Wild West ~ The Famous Sleeve Gun

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    "The Wild Wild West"
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    1965-9

    One of James West’s most popular gadgets is the secret sleeve device. As performed by Robert Conrad, West first used this mechanism in the series’ pilot episode, "The Night of the Inferno." Strapped to his right forearm under his jacket, the device would cause a derringer to slide forward into West’s hand when he triggered it to do so. A standard part of West’s spy gear, the gadget is used regularly throughout the series. Most of the time, it is the derringer that is attached; at other times there is a tube of acid, or some other life-saving attachment.

    This is the original prop sleeve device that Conrad used while playing Jim West in this popular TV series. While it doesn’t have the derringer attached, its spring-ejection capability remains in excellent working order.

    WHAT IF...An engineer could come up with a WORKING device that actually would present a firearm DERRINGER or Maybe a NAA or a little Walther TPH .22 (from up your sleeve) right into the palm of your hand. Cool!

    First:...would it be legal for concealed carry?

    Second: Would it have any practical application "in real life?"

    Third: Would you buy one?

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    Not sure about leage i supposed it could ahve a real life application as for would i buy one no

    Dont thing it would work for me

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    I would worry about a malfunction at an inopportune time. Also the ATF would or has probably deemed em illegal.

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    I don't remember

    I don't remember...in The Wild West....did that contraption just put the Derringer in the palm of his hand or did it Auto-Shoot it when it popped out of his sleeve?

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    I can't see how it would/could be illegal? of course i'm no legal eagle.
    its concealed but thats what yer looking for right.
    now the malfunction issue is very valid.
    have it hang up on yer sleeve or such thing....bad.
    i kinda like it for a B.U.G. idea though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    I don't remember...in The Wild West....did that contraption just put the Derringer in the palm of his hand or did it Auto-Shoot it when it popped out of his sleeve?
    I think it just put the gun in his hand.......
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    It just put the Derringer in the palm of his hand.
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    Something similar can be seen on the bad guy in the Arnold movie Red Heat. Also, Sykes' and Fairbain's "Shooting to Live" alludes to a device like this being made by a doctor they were aquainted with. They talk about it in the final section I believe where the Fitz Special is covered. I am curious as to how it is triggered so that a casual movement like reaching for the butter dish at dinner doesn't shoot your gun across the table. You may be able to utilize a setup similar to that used on artifical limbs that allows the upper arm muscles to control the hooks at the hand.

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    Naaaa... it would probably activate at the most in-opportune and unusual time..

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    I recall this style of device in a movie - I know in Marathon Man Laurence Olivier had a virtual switchblade up his arm (IIRC).

    It could work but as has been said - potential for malfunction is maybe too great. It would only be concealed and so not illegal I'd have thought - it is only as considered by me a ''presentation'' method - firing still has to be a very active process once in the hand.

    Clothing choice too and obviously - would be of paramount importance.
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    Thumbs up

    I could see myself reaching for some Popcorn & Whoops! - sendin' that Derringer sailing out onto the movie theater floor!

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    You talkin' to me?

    {Travis Bickel, talking to himself in mirror}
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    You talkin' to me??... (whips out sleeve gun)


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    I believe James Garner carried one of these, among SEVERAL others in Maverick.

    For me personally, I wouldn't carry one. Too great of a chance for a malfunction. Besides, in south Texas, long sleeves get hot in the 10 month summer.
    "Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid." -John Wayne

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    You talken to me!! His worked .
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    Jeff Goldblume carried one in Silverado...

    I guess in theory it would work but I don't think it's very practical (or prudent). I don't know how common such devices actually may have been but it seems that they were usually the choice of gamblers who seldom did anything more strenuous than dealing cards. For anyone who actually moves around much at all, I don't think it'd work too well.

    Some time back I actually experimented with trying to come up with a "sleeve knife" apparatus (inspired by movies and western novels) but was never successful in finding anything that was either fast or consistent.
    "Being a predator isn't always comfortable but the only other option is to be prey. That is not an acceptable option." ~Phil Messina

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