Small .380's Too Small?

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    Just ordered a Ruger LCP (carry a Kahr PM9 now, but want something a bit smaller for summer carry). Anyone have good feedback even though it's only been out for a short time? What holster would you recommend (IWB style).

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    I'm missing something. Why would you want to go larger than the LWS32 for a cartridge as small as the 32acp?

    I know some people have trouble controlling the .380 out of the tiny Seecamp and they might be better suited to an LCP, Kahr, or P3AT......but IMHO, if you're going to carry a .32, you might as well have the smallest, best one out there.........and you do.

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    I love my P3AT for its intended purpose. Had 2 FTE during the first 50 rounds, but after that, not one issue. Got about 600 or 700 rds. downrange and nothing but "BANG" every time. I did do the fluff and buff, but not sure I even needed to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidetech View Post
    Just ordered a Ruger LCP (carry a Kahr PM9 now, but want something a bit smaller for summer carry). Anyone have good feedback even though it's only been out for a short time? What holster would you recommend (IWB style).
    I have a Hign Noon Hidden ally for IWB right now. Also have a nice smartcarry style pouch that my wife made for me. Special seams, waterproof insert and all. Between these and the pocket holster I can carry the LCP anywhere, anytime.
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    I guess I'm odd man out, I prefer the .32 in a mouse gun. I see no reason to go with a 380, and if I want to step up it will be to a 9mm. You can get a 9mm in pretty much the same size package as the 380's anyway.
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    Hi, I just purchased a new LCP Monday and have put maybe 300 rounds through it thus far.
    It's a great little pocket pistol and dependable as all hell (no ftf,jam,fte,etc). Easy head shots from 0-15 feet easy body mass shots up to 40 feet. I will probably switch back and forth between my little Colt Pony Pocketlite and the new Ruger LCP.
    I had a KT some time ago and never was sure if it was going to fire everytime I pulled the trigger.
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    I can control a P3AT a lot better than a J Frame. I shoot the little .380 a lot better in rapid strings and distance shots as well.
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    I deffinately agree there. They are not pretty by any means, but they work well for what they are made to do. Light, accurate and easy to carry and conceal.


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    Anyone like Buffalo Bore and Double Tap .380 ammo?
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    I primary carry a P3AT in a SmartCarry on a daily basis at work and love it. It's very concealable and has the horsepower necessary in a defensive situation. Kel-Tec says "average" life expectancy is 6k rounds, I've got 1k through mine and it still works like a champ. Putting Bersa grip extenders on my mags and a slip-on grip makes it a joy to shoot, for me it fits the bill.
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    Grip Extensions

    Do any of you who own either the P3-AT or the LCP use the grip extensions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardCohodas View Post
    Do any of you who own either the P3-AT or the LCP use the grip extensions?
    Putting Kel Tec grip extenders on my mags and a slip-on grip makes it a joy to shoot, for me it fits the bill.
    With the addition of the grip extensions 54602 - Kel-Tec P3AT .380 Grip Extension - Manufactured by: Kel-Tec on the magazines and a slip-on grip KTADDONS.com the recoil and bite of this little gun is minimal and really increases my accuracy with it out to 25ft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I guess I'm odd man out, I prefer the .32 in a mouse gun. I see no reason to go with a 380, and if I want to step up it will be to a 9mm. You can get a 9mm in pretty much the same size package as the 380's anyway.
    While I agree with you, I'm not allowed anything below a 380 per my dept guidelines for an off-duty weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulle46 View Post
    While I agree with you, I'm not allowed anything below a 380 per my dept guidelines for an off-duty weapon.
    And I am sure they have a reasonable explanation for this, why should they send their officers out there that's less effective than a .380 or 38special?

    A round like the .32 looks like it could possibly work for a headshots (if perpendicular and not an angle) and the neck area (less flesh to penetrate). I can't imagine that round doing much in the torso because the ribs will certainly slow or stop the round.... and the .25ACP can't even penetrate the human skull at times, there are reports of this round literally BOUNCING OFF OF the skull, and some people got hit multiple times in the face, and they were walking around as if they got slapped... Now why would a police department issue something on that level?
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    LCP

    I got an LCP and have put about 200 rounds through it with no problems. I have tried to limp wrist it but couldn't make it jam. It does like federal hydrashocks better than the corbons. I have put winchester target, remington 88 grain JHPs, Corbons, and Hydrashocks through it and it ate them all. The corbons felt rough when loading but they did load and go bang with every load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhawk41 View Post
    I got an LCP and have put about 200 rounds through it with no problems. I have tried to limp wrist it but couldn't make it jam. It does like federal hydrashocks better than the corbons. I have put winchester target, remington 88 grain JHPs, Corbons, and Hydrashocks through it and it ate them all. The corbons felt rough when loading but they did load and go bang with every load.
    YouTube - testing several handguns for "limp wristing"

    Did you try to limp wrist as shown in this video?

    I tried limping with my P239 by only loosely holding it, could not get it to malfunction... BUT when I held the gun using the method (as shown in the video), the slide could not travel all the way back so I had to manually slide it back to eject the spent casing and load the following round.
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