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    We just put new tile in one bathroom last week...my wife would shoot ME if I punched a hole in that floor!

    Whew...glad it turned out as well as it did for you.
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    So... Hows the gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    So... Hows the gun?
    The gun is good did a function test and everything works like it should,the barrel has a couple small nicks on the crown where concrete or something hit it
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
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    Ok dukalmighty, I think its time you take a break. That makes two freak accidents in the past couple of weeks. I don't want you to prove the old adage "Third time is the charm."

    Glad your ok, though.
    I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofASniper View Post
    Ok dukalmighty, I think its time you take a break. That makes two freak accidents in the past couple of weeks. I don't want you to prove the old adage "Third time is the charm."

    Glad your ok, though.
    You're not kidding both with 2 different 45's the first one an overcharged case and the last round I had to shoot and now a dropped weapon with a discharge in my bathroom,dog didn't come out from under the bed til i showed her some pizza.
    I keep looking at the diameter of the hole in the floor and it's over an inch in diameter,I guess that's why I carry a 45 but i'm not gonna put anymore holes In my bathroom floor with other calibres to do a comparison
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    Whew, that is scary, glad you are ok.

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    Glad that you're OK. That's the most important thing always.

    You had best install a heavier Wolff firing pin spring.

    A heavier firing pin spring sure would have prevented an inertia FP discharge when the pistol was dropped from that short distance.

    Yep, looks like your thumb safety was also in the Off Safe position when your pistol hit the floor.

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    You also need to do a complete step by step "function check" on that pistol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Glad that you're OK. That's the most important thing always.

    You had best install a heavier Wolff firing pin spring.

    A heavier firing pin spring sure would have prevented an inertia FP discharge when the pistol was dropped from that short distance.

    Yep, looks like your thumb safety was also in the Off Safe position when your pistol hit the floor.

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    You also need to do a complete step by step "function check" on that pistol.
    Yep I already ran through all the safety checks trying to get hammer to drop,and I will get a new firing pin spring for both my 45's ASAP,I read about other 45's discharging but when you watch you're gun freefall and fire as soon as it impacts the floor it's surreal,due to my spinal cord injury I have abnormal feeling in my legs and first thing I noticed i got cut by shrapnel is when i saw the blood,then I started looking for any worse wounds, I have totally skinned my knee before and didn't know I was hurt til i saw blood coming through my pants.
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    I have seen some really light weight firing pin springs for 1911s.
    In fact a have a couple of them saved just because I could not believe how light/weak they were.

    One option is to get Titanium firing pins which are so light that they do not have enough mass/weight to detonate a primer in a muzzle drop.
    I love Titanium but, just don't trust Titanium as a firing pin material.

    I'd rather stay with a fairly heavy firing pin spring...which means that you need at least a full power mainspring in the mainspring housing.

    The set-up that I am using on my carry guns is a full power plus mainspring.
    A Titanium mainspring cap.
    A Titanium hammer strut.
    A slightly weight lightened "tool steel" rowell hammer.
    A Wolff heavier firing pin spring.
    A super high quality aftermarket firing pin.
    A tool steel "machined from bar stock" sear.

    Of course that negates the possibility of having a super duper lightweight trigger pull weight since they usually require a lighter mainspring (and light mainsprings plus heavy FP springs result in light primer strikes) but, I just want a crisp 4.5 or 5 # trigger on my carry .45s anyway. So the above combination works out great for me.

    I also make sure that my thumb safeties have a very positive On/Off click.
    No "mushy" thumb safety for me. When it's on it stays on and when I thumb it off it stays off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    I have seen some really light weight firing pin springs for 1911s.
    In fact a have a couple of them saved just because I could not believe how light/weak they were.

    One option is to get Titanium firing pins which are so light that they do not have enough mass/weight to detonate a primer in a muzzle drop.
    I love Titanium but, just don't trust Titanium as a firing pin material.

    I'd rather stay with a fairly heavy firing pin spring...which means that you need at least a full power mainspring in the mainspring housing.

    The set-up that I am using on my carry guns is a full power plus mainspring.
    A Titanium mainspring cap.
    A Titanium hammer strut.
    A slightly weight lightened "tool steel" rowell hammer.
    A Wolff heavier firing pin spring.
    A super high quality aftermarket firing pin.
    A tool steel "machined from bar stock" sear.

    Of course that negates the possibility of having a super duper lightweight trigger pull weight since they usually require a lighter mainspring (and light mainsprings plus heavy FP springs result in light primer strikes) but, I just want a crisp 4.5 or 5 # trigger on my carry .45s anyway. So the above combination works out great for me.

    I also make sure that my thumb safeties have a very positive On/Off click.
    No "mushy" thumb safety for me. When it's on it stays on and when I thumb it off it stays off.
    I installed my ambi safety and it has positive on off stops,I just bought 2 new 18# recoil springs,but this is a RIA 1911 compact that discharged,I don't care for light triggers on carry guns as long as it's consistent and breaks crisp,I'm hoping new firing pin spring will solve the problem,that and tightening the retention on the holster up a little,to prevent dropping my gun again,I hope I can get the tile replaced before my wife sees it
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
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    You're one lucky dude. That could have gone a lot worse. I'm surprised the gun fired. Glad you are OK and no-one was injured.
    Seems like we can never be too careful.

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    Man, glad you came out of it OK. That had to be scary.
    Just to get it clear in my mind, in the first pic, the 1911 slide is locked back. Is that how you found it? I'm thinking that if the safety was on, the slide would not have cycled. So maybe the safety was off.
    My question is, would the position of the thumb safety make any difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911packer View Post
    Man, glad you came out of it OK. That had to be scary.
    Just to get it clear in my mind, in the first pic, the 1911 slide is locked back. Is that how you found it? I'm thinking that if the safety was on, the slide would not have cycled. So maybe the safety was off.
    My question is, would the position of the thumb safety make any difference?
    from what I could tell the gun jammed and i cleared it and sat it down there is no way the slide could of operated if thumb safety was engaged,due to way gun fired the slide never cycled all the way and the spent case wasn't ejected but the slide started to strip another round from mag.I'm positive the safety was on prior to incident and my shirt upon pulling gun out of holster when the gun dropped it pulled the safety off,but the impact of the barrel striking first propelled the firing pin forward,even with the thumb safety engaged gun would of fired but action would of remained closed with fired case in barrel.The gun hit just in front and to the side of my left foot,and I received a cut to my right ankle,and my blood is really red.
    "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country,"
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    ...due to way gun fired the slide never cycled all the way and the spent case wasn't ejected ...
    I understand that "limp wristing" can result in improper cycling of the slide; apparently "no wristing" can do the same.

    Very glad you and your family are OK!

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    So many thoughts, but I will keep my mouth shut to prevent any flames. Most of all----just very glad you are all right, hope your hearing did not get damaged. And yes you do deserve a new pair of Hanes.


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