I dropped my RIA 45 and....

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahRSO View Post
    Glad you're OK. Is the bullet in the floor? Or did it ricochet somewhere? (Or did I miss where the answer is already given?)
    I found the flattened copper jacket in the bathtub and 2 lead fragments on the floor the piece In the toilet was a hunk of linoleum,it was a concrete slab floor the bullet impact area measures 1" in circumferense with some linoleum pyshed away from the impact area.I've owned the gun about a year and have probably shot about 1000 rounds through it,
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    Gosh dang this has me freaked out. Glad you are OK.

    I thought this wasn't supposed to happen unless the safety was off, grip safety depressed, and then trigger pulled.

    Is this what that 1911 pencil test is for? How about a primer for the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalina View Post
    Gosh dang this has me freaked out. Glad you are OK.

    I thought this wasn't supposed to happen unless the safety was off, grip safety depressed, and then trigger pulled.

    Is this what that 1911 pencil test is for? How about a primer for the thread?
    No, the pencil test is to make sure that your firing pin safety is working, the RIA mentioned does not have a firing pin safety, nor does it have a heavier spring/lighter firing pin combo that is used to negate a "drop fire"

    Even without the firing pin safety or changed components, you need to drop the 1911 just right to get it to fire with the safeties active. Dukalmighty hit the lottery on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    No, the pencil test is to make sure that your firing pin safety is working, the RIA mentioned does not have a firing pin safety, nor does it have a heavier spring/lighter firing pin combo that is used to negate a "drop fire"

    Even without the firing pin safety or changed components, you need to drop the 1911 just right to get it to fire with the safeties active. Dukalmighty hit the lottery on this one.
    I agree the gun fell perfectly straight on the muzzle ,I notified Armscor and they are letting the factory know about it in case they need to change anything,I am personally putting in a wolf x power firing pin spring to make sure it never happens again.Not to many people leave the range with loaded guns and those that do don't make a habit of dropping them.The second or two right after the kaboom is the worse cause you don't know where the round went and I was waiting for the blood to start gushing or pain.The primer won't show up very good on the camera but the indentation looks just like the cases i fire at the range.All the safetys work like they are suppose to and I even cocked the gun and dropped it on the carpet from higher than 5 feet and hammer stayed cocked with thumb safety disengaged.I doubt if anybody would repeat the way ny gun dropped but to be safe in 1911's that don't have the block you might want to put a heavier spring in,some guns already come with them my SA 1911-A1 has a spring 3/4 inch longer than the one in the RIA
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    Okay, the safety was off. Somehow, somewhere, someway. Otherwise, your slide would not have retracted at all, if the safety was properly fitted, and engaged the slide notch when "on." That is one of its functions- to prevent the slide cycling in the event of UD. That wouldnt appear to have anything to do with a slam-fire, but is something to consider.

    I would probably send the gun to RIA. Check your barrel for a stress fracture. If it fell square-on, then fired, cracking the barrel and/or bushing via backpressure isn't inconceivble.

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    Damn Man... lol

    Good thing it wasnt a public bathroom
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    Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but there are two things that are particularly good:

    1. Everyone is okay
    2. Ricochet didn't take out the pot.
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    Right now the gun is completely tore down and being inspected for safety,Until I replace FP spring and range test it I will not carry it,I am carrying my SA 5"1911 -A1 and it conceals just as well in the crossbreed holster.I posted this thread as a warning to people no matter how many safetys you have on a gun,all it takes is a freak accident and a gun can fire,I love my RIA 1911 and the pistol design is very safe,but the way it hit was a 1 in a million shot,that's the only pistol I have ever dropped,I've had guns fall over and hit the ground but they were always unloaded with the actions open.I never realised that there were different strength FP sprinngs and am going to install a wolff x strong one when I reassemble the gun.I'm really careful with guns loaded or otherwise.I'm still kinda shook up a different ricochet or scenario somebody might be seriously injured or killed,I'm just saying be careful and never get complacent when handling a firearm
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    amen
    go get a lotto ticket and fill in #'s 1911 and 45. If you're gonna be "lucky" might as well make it pay for the floor.

    Good thing you don't live in a upstairs apartment!

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    I notified Armscor and they are letting the factory know about it in case they need to change anything
    Thanks for your story, glad you are ok, and thanks for your work in making sure it doesn't happen to anyone else.
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    Holy smokes. Glad you're okay!

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    It could have been so much worse, thank god you're ok and nobody else was injured.
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    Wow,Thank GOD no one got hurt.
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    Now you know the reason for the series 80 system. Had the gun been fitted with a firing pin retention system this accident would not have occured. Thank goodness only the floor was killed.
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