1911 question (with pics)

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    1911 question (with pics)

    What is this feature on some 1911s called?
    Where the frame seems almost cut off



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    It's called the "bobtail"

    The model pictured in the bottom of your thread is the DW COMMANDER CLS BOBTAIL

    IIRC, the practice of trimming that portion of the grip was originated by Ed Brown, and is commonly referred to as an Ed Brown Bobtail

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    Can it be done on any 1911s with gun smithing?
    Or does it just have to come that way?
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    Bobtaill grip. Not sure what benefits you get from having it done/bought that way. I personally don't like the looks of 1911's that are bobbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bal_g23 View Post
    Can it be done on any 1911s with gun smithing?
    Or does it just have to come that way?
    It can be smithed, there are a number of smiths that can perform the task.

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    Bobtaill grip. Not sure what benefits you get from having it done/bought that way. I personally don't like the looks of 1911's that are bobbed.
    The benefit is that is a little more concealable as that corner is what usually prints when worn under a cover garment.

    Also, I find that they fit my hand just a little bit better.

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    It can be done on any 1911. Brownells sells a jig just for that purpose, and several grip makers make bobtailed grips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzerik View Post
    Bobtaill grip. Not sure what benefits you get from having it done/bought that way. I personally don't like the looks of 1911's that are bobbed.
    It's supposed to help with concealment and I'll raise my hand to give testament that it does help some. It keeps the sharp edge of the mainspring housing from sticking out like a sore thumb from under your clothes. It also keeps the mainspring housing from rubbing holes in your clothes..lol Yeah, I have two shirts with holes in the backs of them where the checkering on the back of the mainspring housing has been so sharp it has rubbed a hole right in my shirts. Don't have to worry about that with the bobtail. It also doesn't "catch" on clothes so much because it's such a smooth surface instead of a sharp one.

    My Wilson Combat Professional came with a bobtail and I was neither here nor there about it and I was surprised to find it did make a difference for me.

    Now, some don't like the bobtail because it changes the grip in the hand but seeing as I have such tiny hands that my hand ends before the bobtail begins, it doesn't do a darned thing to my grip, but that is a very personal decision.

    There is a customer of ours who bought a Dan Wesson with a bobtail that is pretty much the same thing as my Wilson, just stainless, and I asked him if the bobtail bothered him seeing as how he has bigger hands than I. He just shrugged and said, "It makes no difference to me."

    Some whine and complain that they hate it, some don't give a crap one way or the other, and some appreciate it. I think it was a decent idea and I'm happy my Wilson has it on it. Like I said, it does help with concealment for me and has been gentler on my clothing. I won't go out of my way to demand a bobtail on any future 1911s I may buy, but I certainly won't rule out a 1911 with a bobtail. In fact, it might be a small mark in its favor.

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    It can only be done on a FULL SIZE frame 1911, not compacts, officers, or ultras. The absence of the rear corner provides a huge concealment benefit. Here are a Colt, Ed Brown, and Kimber Pro bobtailed...
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    So, Husker, THIS is where you've been hanging out!

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    Shucks, you found me. Now I have to go elsewhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    It can only be done on a FULL SIZE frame 1911, not compacts, officers, or ultras. The absence of the rear corner provides a huge concealment benefit. Here are a Colt, Ed Brown, and Kimber Pro bobtailed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    It can only be done on a FULL SIZE frame 1911, not compacts, officers, or ultras. The absence of the rear corner provides a huge concealment benefit. Here are a Colt, Ed Brown, and Kimber Pro bobtailed...
    Yip, leave it to AZ Husker to cause drooling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Husker View Post
    It can only be done on a FULL SIZE frame 1911, not compacts, officers, or ultras. The absence of the rear corner provides a huge concealment benefit. Here are a Colt, Ed Brown, and Kimber Pro bobtailed...
    Actually I believe there is someone on this board that has bobtailed a Kimber Ultra. Did a real nice job, but it did require some extra smithing to accomplish. If I find it I'll post it.
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    As a machinist, we call it, "running out of material"

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