Loads for Detective Special

Loads for Detective Special

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    Loads for Detective Special

    I am new to concealed carry, in fact, although I have applied, I won't receive my permit before the end of the month. I am considering two handguns, which I currently own, for carry. The first is a Colt Detective special, manufactured in the mid 1960s. I can shoot this little revolver pretty well inside of 15 yards and it is absolutely reliable. It is also fairly easy to conceal with summer weight clothing.The problem is that it is not rated for +P ammunition. Can anyone suggest any safe defensive loads for this gun. My other carry gun is an S&W model 457, .45 ACP. It wouldn't be bad for a carry gun with winter clothes, but I feel it is too big for summer wear. I also own an S&W model 686, .357 mag, and a Dan Wesson .44 mag, but I am not considering either for concealed carry.


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    Greetings,

    Buffalo bore makes a standard pressure 38 special defense load. I've never fired it, I use their +p load for the 38 special. I found it to be very accurate, I see no reason why the standard pressure would be less quality. The stuff is expensive, maybe someone here knows of a more economical solution.



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    I like Federal 110 gr JHP low recoil...for .38 special Iuse this load in my SP101 everyday

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    Any good quality standard pressure load will work well in a Detective Special.

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    Also consider this:
    Remington Express® Handgun Ammunition

    38 Special R38S6 158 LEAD SWC

    Good luck with whatever you decide!
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    Lightbulb Colt Detective Special Ammo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticredneck View Post
    I am new to concealed carry, in fact, although I have applied, I won't receive my permit before the end of the month. I am considering two handguns, which I currently own, for carry. The first is a Colt Detective special, manufactured in the mid 1960s. I can shoot this little revolver pretty well inside of 15 yards and it is absolutely reliable. It is also fairly easy to conceal with summer weight clothing.The problem is that it is not rated for +P ammunition. Can anyone suggest any safe defensive loads for this gun. My other carry gun is an S&W model 457, .45 ACP. It wouldn't be bad for a carry gun with winter clothes, but I feel it is too big for summer wear. I also own an S&W model 686, .357 mag, and a Dan Wesson .44 mag, but I am not considering either for concealed carry.
    Colt Detective Specials were rated for +P ammunition and information was so provided in the owners manual....
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    I use the FBI load in mine, it was made in 1961 and is very accurate.
    The FBI load is a 158 grain lead hollow point. Winchester and Remington both make it, you can order from Midway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pistola View Post
    Colt Detective Specials were rated for +P ammunition and information was so provided in the owners manual....
    Not so. Dick Specials made in the mid 60s (2nd generation with unshrouded ejector rod) were not +P rated. Being all steel, they'll handle +P ammo in moderation, but not a steady diet.

    The 3rd generation DS revolvers (with shrouded ejector rods) were rated for +P.

    I'll second the Buffalo Bore standard pressure load recommendation.
    That's what I use in my Colt Cobra (alloy frame, made in 1963).


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    Quote Originally Posted by pmaenner View Post
    Greetings,

    Buffalo bore makes a standard pressure 38 special defense load. I've never fired it, I use their +p load for the 38 special. I found it to be very accurate, I see no reason why the standard pressure would be less quality. The stuff is expensive, maybe someone here knows of a more economical solution.



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    +1 for Buffalo Bore standard pressure 158gr SWC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Not so. Dick Specials made in the mid 60s (2nd generation with unshrouded ejector rod) were not +P rated. Being all steel, they'll handle +P ammo in moderation, but not a steady diet.

    The 3rd generation DS revolvers (with shrouded ejector rods) were rated for +P.

    I'll second the Buffalo Bore standard pressure load recommendation.
    That's what I use in my Colt Cobra (alloy frame, made in 1963).
    Even the alloy framed Cobras and Agents were rated for limited +p ammo. I'll have to see if I can't find an owners manual.
    I'm sure a call to Colt customer service would verify this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Not so. Dick Specials made in the mid 60s (2nd generation with unshrouded ejector rod) were not +P rated. Being all steel, they'll handle +P ammo in moderation, but not a steady diet.

    The 3rd generation DS revolvers (with shrouded ejector rods) were rated for +P.

    I'll second the Buffalo Bore standard pressure load recommendation.
    That's what I use in my Colt Cobra (alloy frame, made in 1963).
    Quote Originally Posted by pistola View Post
    Even the alloy framed Cobras and Agents were rated for limited +p ammo. I'll have to see if I can't find an owners manual.
    I'm sure a call to Colt customer service would verify this.
    I do know that my Stainless Steel SF-VI (basically a DS with more King-Cobra-like lockwork) owners manual suggests shipping it back to the factory every 3000 rounds of +P for a tune-up. I purchased it new in the late 90s.
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    I would use the same thing I use in my 380 Winchester T's.

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    I also have a 3rd Generation Detective Special. I would be very careful about regularily shooting +P ammunition in it.
    When I acquired the pistol, I discovered that it was badly out of time. After a couple of attempts to correct this problem by a local gunsmith, I sent it back to Colt.
    It's now perfect. (After they replaced some internal parts). The previous owner very likely ran a lot of +P ammo through it to create the situation, according to Colt. The gun will handle a limited diet of +P.

    Practice with light, .38 Spec. target loads and then carry +P and you should be just fine!! It's a fine 'carry pistol'!!!
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    Another vote for the Buffalo Bore standard pressure 158gr SWC.

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