I own many of the above mentioned pistols. I can and do carry the PM-9 in a front pocket (loose fit blue jeans). My Keltec P-11 would fit,but I think was too big. When comparing my 442 to my PM-9, the auto is slimmer and to me, less noticable. Now, if I can get my hands on a R-9, I might buy it. I just can't spend 1K without even holding one.