Cocked semi?

Cocked semi?

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    Cocked semi?

    I've been carrying my Kahr DAO for about a week now in the "cocked and locked" mode, and have been wondering about safety.
    I'm a little nervous when I think that that spring is under tension and holding it back from fireing.
    What if the spring breaks?
    I wonder what are the REAL chances of ventilating my shorts while I'm in them?!
    It's really got me wondering............


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    Wonder no more. "Cocked and locked" only applies to a single action such as a 1911. Your Kahr is neither. Its a striker fired DAO, and is just as safe as can be as long as you are smart enough not to pull the trigger when you don't intend to shoot it.
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    no chance the spring could ever break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmargotta View Post
    no chance the spring could ever break?
    Yeah, the spring could break, but it wont fire the gun, as the striker is not "cocked" until you pull the trigger. Even if it was, a broken spring won't make much tension.

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    Great! Thank you! Just the info I needed.........
    I couldn't thimk of anything more embarassing or painful than that kind of accident!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Choosing a handgun: What kind of trigger action - Heyman

    Here is a good explanation, knowing is half the battle.
    Nice GI Joe quote there Sixto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    Nice GI Joe quote there Sixto.
    Thank you, thank you very much. I'll be here all week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    Thank you, thank you very much. I'll be here all week.
    Is that a threat?


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    It just takes time to become comfortable with this method of carry. As others explained the pin is not under tension until you have pulled half the trigger length. I think most of us have gone through this thought process. It's just the natural evolution of the carrying process. Learn everything you can about your firearm and you will become comfortable in due time.
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    Very informative but what is the New York Trigger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenInColo View Post
    Very informative but what is the New York Trigger?
    Just a trigger with an excessively heavy trigger pull (around 12 lbs.)

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    cv got it but I will add, the NY trigger only applies to Glocks and there's two - NY1 and NY2 IIRC.
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    Although there MAY be a Kahr version of the NY trigger... The Kahr is the approved backup/off duty weapon for the NYPD and I would not be surprised if the same heavy pull was mandated as on the Glocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musketeer View Post
    Although there MAY be a Kahr version of the NY trigger... The Kahr is the approved backup/off duty weapon for the NYPD and I would not be surprised if the same heavy pull was mandated as on the Glocks.
    There is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    cv got it but I will add, the NY trigger only applies to Glocks and there's two - NY1 and NY2 IIRC.
    SW makes one I thought for their Sigma series. Or is the gun just designed that way I can't remember.
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