This is a discussion on Single-action revolvers for concealed carry? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tricolordad Thanks for reinforcing my jaded mental picture of Texans! Here y'ar! Hiking with Silas, the dog and the Colt .38-40 in ...
“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
English is my second language, I have been told my use of it is harsh, apologies if this is the matter.
You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun
In a way I think you would scare the crap out of a BG pulling out a big ole hog leg and asking him [ politely of course] to leave you alone. I had a buddy years ago that had a .44 mag
"cowboy gun" with a 6' barrel [ don't remember the brand] and that s.o.b. was impressive in your hand.
Just say no...
"If it bleeds...we can kill it." -Dutch, Predator
Single-action sixguns were state-of-the-art military weapons in their day, and will still perform today as they did then, if I do my part. My chief expects me to be armed at all times, with weapons on my "qual" list, and as I am only allowed to qualify with autos and DA revolvers, I will only occasionally tote an SA sixgun, and even then, will normally have another handgun, too. If, for some reason, I had to use an SA sixgun defensively, I would not consider myself handicapped, as the superb pointability is an advantage, and I trained myself to reload quite quickly.
After retirement, there may well be times I carry an SA sixgun by preference.
Yes, I am a Texian!
It's not difficult at all to cock a SA Ruger on the draw, but unless it's a one shot-one kill affair, there a lot better firearms for follow-on shots. But that .41 Mag Blackhawk would make a very impressive first shot.
Retired USAF E-8. Avatar is OldVet from days long gone. Oh, to be young again.
Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... "For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield
Ill be honest, I carry a Uberti 45 long colt SAA revolver as my CCW. It has a 2.5 inch barrel and its model is called store keeper I believe. I've never had to put it into action but have had to unholster it during an altercation. It got really quiet in the room and the sub decided he want no part of a big man with a cowboy gun. Yes I understand that it doesn't hold many rounds, its slower than Christmas to reload, but if a guy needs more than six rounds of long colt to take him down then well I must be fighting the hulk. My 45 has stopped 300 lb pigs with one round in full charge. So a little punk trying to rob a convienient store really doesn't stand a chance in hell. Plus come court time after a shooting, well sir I don't believe that a single action 45 constitutes me looking for trouble.
Welcome to the forum, mhall (you might want to introduce yourself in the new members section).
I see nothing wrong with carrying a SA revolver, and at one time was actually seriously contemplating finding an IWB rig for my Vaquero. The balance is perfect and cocking while drawing is a natural movement.
For now, I just have too many other options that are lighter, and have more fire power. Some day when I'm retired on my farm, it'll be part of my daily OC apparel.
'Clinging to my guns and religion
I bought the little birdshead 45 acp pictured : I still carry the thing. AA mernickle ps6 hides it, and it packs better than my 625. Accurate and fast, and plenty of power stoked with 255 swc's at 850. Reloading what you shoot if possible. But I can dump and fill with tuff strips in 6 seconds. I LOVE that little birdshead. I carry a wide variety of weapons ( 1911, 625 JM, Blackhawk in 45 colt) and the little vaquero, and I compete with all of them ( cowboy action or IPSC). The thumbusters feel the best and are fastest to the first shot. One should carry what feels best and what one is the most practiced and confident in.
That weapon is as sexy and cool in real life as it is in the pictures!
I have dwindled (omg.... i mean dwindled) down my modern guns to the following.
Sig 226 x2
and EDC the Sig (without the silencer of course)
Now getting to the OP.... I RECENTLY have had the "itch" to "own a piece of history" so as you see by the OCD of going to the extreme with my "modern firearms" ...I purchased an 1887 Colt SAA 7 1/2" US stamped, sub inspected by Henry Nettleton (I suspect only the SAS will appreciate the significance of that) .
So my OCD makes me want to fire it so I can't bring myself to fire an almost 150 y/o very fine SAA ..so I purchased a Cimarron Thunderstorm birds head grip 4 3/4".... and a CCW rig from D.M. Bullard Leather. shoots like a dream comes with a sweet action job and a lowered and widened hammer.
I see and agree with all sides of everyones opinions ... I would prefer one of my Sigs in a stress fire situation, and it is easier to CCW my Sig too and yes reload. But... CWW the SA Colt clone is just to awesome and the "neat feeling" factor is through the roof.... yes Heavy ...yes slow to reload... there is no "cross bar safety " but first click on the hammer is the safety and I still only carry 5rds.
Facts... if an altercation happens ...god forbid its going to be within 5-9 feet of the BG. So with all the firearms talk and saber rattling who's piece "goes band more efficiently" ....in MY opinion is completely secondary to training and practice with your CCW. I can't stress that enough. if the BG has a Sig or Glock ...and I have my SA it all comes down to ....as it did in 1878..."fastest draw".
So in my humble opinion if you are not practicing your CCW skills you are missing the boat.
SO... as promised in the TITLE here is a VERY cool piece of history story... and its not hearsay there are documentation from witnesses on this .....I just think this individual had luck on his side that day and was one skilled / tough man
enjoy the read :)
“One Man With Courage is a Majority”
The Saga of Captain Jonathan Davis
December 19, 1854. Captain Jonathan Davis and two companions, James McDonald and Dr. Bolivar Sparks, were navigating a narrow path in Rocky Canon, near Sacramento, Ca., on their return from prospecting a vein of gold. They were suddenly attacked from ambush by 14 bandits who had been robbing and killing miners in the area for a number of weeks. McDonald was killed instantly without firing a shot, Sparks got off two shots before he was mortally wounded, leaving Davis alone to face the bandits.
Capt. Davis, a veteran of the Mexican-American War, drew his two colts and began systematically firing at the bandits, killing eight instantly. In no time, both parties were out of ammunition. Three of the bandits drew knives and cutlasses and advanced on Davis, who drew his own large, Bowie knife. He slashed and parried with them, mortally wounding all three in hand-to-hand combat (one, the leader, had his finger and nose cut off with a maneuver that Davis used to disarm him).
Despite the heavy gunfire from the banditos, Davis suffered only two minor flesh wounds. Friends would later count six holes in his hat and eleven through his coat and shirt. Going through the bandits belongings Davis retrieved $491 in gold and silver, four ounces of gold dust and a number of gold and silver watches. He then carried Dr. Sparks to his home near Sutter's Mill and requested that Sparks receive the bounty. Sparks, however, died from his wounds on Dec 26th.
One man bested more than a dozen of the most violent criminals in the frontier west, in, what has been called by author and historian John Boessenecker, “possibly the single most extraordinary feat of self defense by an American civilian in the annals of frontier history.”