Taurus 85UL

Taurus 85UL

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    Taurus 85UL

    I took the 85UL out to the range for the first time. My warm up was 20 rounds of Winchester White Box 130gr Round Nose. The pistol functioned well, so I put up paper targets.

    I found that my pistol shoots a hint left of POA, about 3 inches left at 15 yards. That seems OK for a snubbie, intended to shoot at person size targets at likely half that distance. By the end of the 130gr loads, I had fired 200 rounds.

    I had four failures to fire throughout the 200 rounds. Looking at the rounds, each looked like a light primer strike. Looking at other rounds that did fire, I thought they looked like the pistol gave the primer quite a whallop. I'm guessing I was paying attention to shooting a group, and may have not allowed the trigger to pull all the way back, and the transfer bar may not have fully engaged. Otherwise, I have no idea why the primers would show light strikes on four rounds, and look like the other 196 got pounded...

    I then loaded what I intend to be my carry round and shot this 5 shot group, still at 15 yards:


    This group is the first 5 shots (of 20) I fired of Buffalo Bore 125gr Gold Dot Hollow Point +P loads. The information online calls this a 1000+fps load from a 2 inch barrel. The GDHP is said to expand reliabily anywhere from 880fps up. The group is still left, and a hint high. I assume the faster bullet just flew flatter. Recoil was similar to a S&W model 60 (all steel 2 1/8 Magnaported barrel) I had a few years ago, with full power Magnum loads. By the end of the 20 rounds, I wanted to be done. My wrist was telling me to call it quits. I brought the second box home with me. After shooting this, I cannot imagine shooting a similar weight 357 Magnum with full power loads.

    So, my 85 was said by Taurus to have been manufactured in May of 2006, and I fired 20 of what is likely the hottest 38+P from it with no issues at all. The 20 rounds of Buffalo Bore had ZERO failures. With the added recoil, I'm sure my trigger finger was not nearly as "controlled" as it was with the lighter WWB loads.

    I guess I'll include a disclaimer to say that I do not endorse the use off ammo that a shooter, or pistol manufacturer, might deem as unsafe for their pistol. I'm just telling you about my day.


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    The light primer strikes are the fault of the gun, and I would not trust it until corrected.

    I have posted that I once had a Taurus 85 SS CH. It would also fail to fire, and was sent to the factory at least twice, and I think three times without success.

    I got tired of the factory and sent it to Teddy Jacobson. He did not fix it, and although he offered to do it over, I was so tired, after more than a year of fooling with it, I wanted it replaced. It then took me probably close to 6 months after contacting the top man in the US for Taurus.
    Finally it was replaced, and I promptly sold it to a friend, and I ate the costs that I had incurred.

    Hopefully you will not have my experience, but I would not trust a gun that misfired until repaired, and tested with considerable shooting.

    Regards,
    Jerry

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    What might cause a 2% failure rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    What might cause a 2% failure rate?
    I don't know. I could not get mine fixed. I think my problem was that I was a victim of tolerances.
    A weak spring would seem to be the first place to look, but I am not that knowledgeable in that area.

    Hopefully someone here can help a bit.

    Taurus folks never complained at the number of times I sent mine in, and they would test fire each time, but they did not fire the number of rounds that I did. They never were able to determine the cause of ftf.

    Regards,
    Jerry

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