The Glock 19

The Glock 19

This is a discussion on The Glock 19 within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; As many of you know, my normal duty and off-duty carry weapon is a Sig P228. I love this pistol - it is very well ...

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    The Glock 19

    As many of you know, my normal duty and off-duty carry weapon is a Sig P228. I love this pistol - it is very well made, more accurate than I am, reliable as all get out, and (IMO) a good looking gun. In fact, I love Sigs in general, which is why I own four of them...


    The team that I lead right now is armed with G19s, so I - in order to maintain compatibility of mags, holsters, mag pouches, etc) - have been carrying a G19 for about 6 weeks now. We've been to the range a number of times, doing a number of exercises, and I'd venture to say that I've put about 1000 rounds through it since I drew it (brand new!) from the armory. I carried a G23 for a while as a civilian, and of course the M9 as a soldier, but it's been a while since I had any meaningful relationship with a Glock. So, why the post?

    The Glock 19 has to be one of the finest "fighting" handguns ever created. It is overlooked because it is so common, so "plain Jane," and so (to many) visually unappealing. Yes, you can't gussy it up with pearl grips (or cocobolo, or whatever the flavor of the day is) or trick it out with 10,000 aftermarket (and almost always useless) accessories. The point is - you don't have to. The G19 is just about perfect right out of the box.

    The G19 is dead reliable, period. While others may be in the same category, the Glock still sets the standard for rugged dependability (as even most Glock haters can agree).

    The G19 is light, slim for its capacity, and easy to conceal. It is also easy to carry all day, every day, even when fully loaded with a 15rd mag.

    The G19 is plenty accurate for a combat handgun.

    The G19 is simplicity itself, with no levers, safeties, or other doo-hickeys required to fire it - a true "point and click" interface.

    The G19 is efficient, packing 15+1 into its frame (17+1 if you want to use cheap and readily available G17 mags). It set the standard for size/weight/capacity ratios that has yet to be significantly overcome.

    The G19 is controllable, despite its relatively light weight. Almost anyone can handle 9mm recoil in a mid-sized platform, and rapid follow up shots are quick and easy with the G19.

    The G19 trigger is light enough for accuracy, without being so light as to be dangerous (coupled with the trigger safety to help if the trigger is somehow bumped by something, it's a system I am fully confident in).

    The G19 is simple and easy to maintain, with parts and mags being available everywhere, at reasonable prices.

    The G19 is chambered in the most readily available center-fire pistol caliber in the western world; a caliber that is significantly cheaper than most of it's competitors and is so close in effectiveness as to make the "stopping power" argument (as often as we have it) relatively moot.

    So, what are the down sides? That oft-repeated "grip angle" issue, which is purely a matter of taste (and to me at least, smacks of searching for something to complain about).

    The "ugliness" factor - how this really enters into the argument when we're talking about a tool to defend your very life (and not to hang over the fire place) is beyond me, but enter into it it does...

    The real drawback, IMO? Everyone has a Glock. There is nothing special about them (except their undeniable track record and utter efficiency at their job). You can't get skeletonized hammers, custom beaver-tails, nickel-plating, and so on (well, actually, you can get any number of after-market gadgets/treatments, but the VAST majority of them are complete wastes of time). You can't sell magazines with a picture of a black brick on the cover, no matter how good a tool that brick is - much better to have the newest whiz-bang Glock copy or a $10,000 race gun to draw the eye...

    In any case, there's my ode to that most underappreciated of handguns - the one that simply works. Here's to you, G19 - I may never give up my Sig for you, but that's certainly not because you aren't a fantastic platform.
    A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

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    ode to the glock 19

    opfor, ugly guns need lovin' too.

    what can you say about them glocks? you beat them, some of us probably don't clean them as often; feed them junk and they eat them w/o complaints, feed them the premium stuff and they sure do appreciate them.

    them glocks do our bidding; spit lead and hit the targets fate willing.

    glocks rock.
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    "no plan survives intact upon contact with the enemy" - wisdom of the Grunts.

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    OPFOR- You nailed it. +++1.

    Doggone it though, the G19 has been on the back-burner on my "wish list", now you moved it toward the front.
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    Very true.
    You can never have enough magazines or ammo.

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    I've been saying the same things about the G19 for a long long time; It is my second favorite pistol for all the reasons you have mentioned; but the 228 just shoots better for me.
    I do switch back and forth between a 19 and a 228 fairly regular, the 19 is just hard to walk away from.

    When Gaston came up with his one word slogan, he was holding a G19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPFOR View Post
    The G19 is simplicity itself, with no levers, safeties, or other doo-hickeys required to fire it - a true "point and click" interface.

    That is the number one reason I carry a Glock. I got my first one in 1992 when most people didn't like that "plastic junk" And as you pointed out look at all tha copies out there now!
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    The G19 is a very good fighting pistol, and I wouldn't get rid of mine for anything. Of all my handguns, my G19 is the only one equipped with night sights.
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    I bought a g19 in the late 90's then sold it for a 1911 before ccw became legal in MO. After CCW became legal. I traded a 1911 1 for 1 on a g19. People thought that it was an unwise trade. I never looked back. I still own 1 1911 that is a safe queen/range gun. My glocks are charged with home defense and protection of my assets if I should have to walk through the valley.

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    I have a 2nd generation G19, looks ugly as hell, I wouldn't sell it for anything. Nice carrying 16rds 9mm so easily.
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    I fought the urge to flock to the glock for a long time. I knew there was nothing in this world that could replace my 1911's and HP's. What I learned was that Glocks were just as "GOOD" - more dependable out of the box - simpler to use - simpler to maintain - and less costly. Have I sold or given away my beloved 1911's or HP's - No I added more but I also added 10 Glocks to the inventory and made a Glock my main carry and also my main game guns.
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    I first purchased a G17 because I was tired of lugging a Combat Commander all day (circa late 1980's?). Shortly after they came out, I purchased a G19. Immediately on their release I bought the G26 (these are now hugely popular). I've carried all three at various times (and rarely all three together). Though I've now moved back to the 1911 platform as my EDC, of the Glocks, the most often carried (and favorite to shoot) is the G19.
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    Im going to have to agree with you on the G19. Nothing has the reliablility a glock has, is very simple, and has good performance. I think the grip angle leaves you adjusting to make it point right, but overall a very nice gun. I think for $400, you can't get a nicer gun.

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    I love my Glock 19. If I had to choose only one gun to have, it would be my Glock 19!

    “They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security” Benjamin Franklin
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    I love all of my Glocks, but the Glock 19 has a special place... it's now my primary gun of choice to bring to the range... I remember my first range trip with a Glock... bought my first one less than two months later.
    Be Observant and Be Safe.

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    and Glock G26, G19, G23C, and SIG P226-40 TT, and Ruger GP-100, and Beretta 92FS
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    With over 130 guns in my collection, more than 75 are handguns...the G19 is my personal choice for daily carry.

    'nuff said.

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