22's For DCCW?

22's For DCCW?

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    22's For DCCW?

    Fellows I was just wondering if any of you have ever considered your 22's as your DCCW weapon?
    I've been reading a couple of interesting books on the ccw's of the past and present. What I've found surprising is how highly regarded the little 22lr is in the rest of the world but as both authors point out it is generally ignored as an effective defensive round in the US and Canada.
    Wonder why that is....big caliber hype????
    Anyway, I found it interesting and thought I would put the question to you-all. Have you ever thought about using your 22 for your ccw? Why or why not?
    I know if I didn't have the LCP I might really consider carrying one of these, S&W 3" 317 revolver, Walther PPk 22lr or the Walther PP22lr. As a matter of fact the more I think about it....I still might carry one every once in a while. Let's hear from you.....
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    Many very good reasons not to carry a 22lr for a self defense weapon. Here are a few that come to mind.

    A) I live in a state that sees it's share of cold weather, so many a folk dress in layers during the cold weather. What are the odds that a 22lr would make it through several heavy layers, and still penetrate the BG.

    B) Of the guns I own and shoot, the 22 has the most FTF, FTE, and FTF. I don't want that on my mind when I need my CCW weapon.

    I could list several more, but I feel those are the 2 most obvious.

    If I read correctly, you carry a LCP, so why even consider the 22.


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    I do at times, p-22

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    nevernot enough penetration in my opinion. I have heard stories of people being killed with one but would nt risk my life on it as long as I have a 45acp
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingZ View Post
    B) Of the guns I own and shoot, the 22 has the most FTF, FTE, and FTF. I don't want that on my mind when I need my CCW weapon.
    I agree with Z, mosty for reason "B". This is from experience: I belong to a pistol league, and during the .22 shoots, there is almost always an "alibi", when someone has a FTF. It could be a dud, a double feed, a stovepipe, whatever, but in a defensive situation, I wouldn't want to have that happen.

    If you want something really small and light, I would stay with a .380, like the LCP, or Rohrbaugh 9mm.

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    Well, if you go to a country were people rob and mug you with nothing but sticks and stones, then a 22 is more than adequate power. You are then superior to everyone else. Reverse, go to a country where everyone open carries an AK47 then my XD45 suddenly looks like that little 22. Same logic.

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    One word, Energy
    If you do the math on it , the 22lr it is too low to stop someone
    fast consistently.
    your life needs better odds than the energy numbers
    the 22lr will give you

    you get numbers around 150 ft. lbs from the 22lr
    my Glock G33 chambered in 357 sig gives me 500-600 ft lbs
    I will take that math any day

    PS I have a P22 and like it ,but I don't bet my life on it
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    I carried a Walther TPH when I couldn't manage to bring along anything bigger, until I got a Ruger LCP recently. The Walther is a great little gun, but it's no longer made, and .22LR rounds don't seem to handle the environmental issues of concealed carry very well, I changed the ammo every week to avoid misfires.

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    Perhaps when cutting the lawn in gym shorts...with my NAA .22LR Mini...but more likely my KelTec .380.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSA9 View Post
    One word, Energy
    If you do the math on it , the 22lr it is too low to stop someone
    fast consistently.
    your life needs better odds than the energy numbers
    the 22lr will give you

    you get numbers around 150 ft. lbs from the 22lr ......
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    I have carried a P22 in the past, as it was light and compact to carry. I usually did this when walking my Bichon and figured the threat level to be low. That was until we ran into three huge Great Danes that had gotten loose one night. My P22 suddenly didn't feel so adequate that night. Now I carry at least a .38 special and some pepper spray when out walking my little canine pal.
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    John Hinkley did pretty well with a .22lr.
    Sirhan Sirhan used one too.
    A .22lr up close can be pretty dangerous.
    History shows this to be true.

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    22's for DCCW

    Quote Originally Posted by ripley16 View Post
    John Hinkley did pretty well with a .22lr.
    Sirhan Sirhan used one too.
    A .22lr up close can be pretty dangerous.
    History shows this to be true.


    Do you really want to be that close and HOPE the .22 does the job? Not me. When the SHTF,I know my .45acp will work. Practice with the .22,but carry a major caliber for SD. My 2 cents.

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    While it is true that more people are killed every year with the .22 Rimfire the problem is that they are not usually stopped right away.

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    There is a huge difference between running up to another human being and popping them in the head with any caliber and STOPPING a deadly threat that is ready to cave your skull in with a tire iron.
    It does not do you much good at all if your violent attacker dies eventually.

    That being said if you decide to carry a .22 handgun for personal defense then it is probably a good idea to stoke it with Match Grade ammunition since the Quality Control manufacturing standards are much, much higher with Match Grade than with most other "off the shelf" .22 ammunition.

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