I got my first convert

I got my first convert

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    I got my first convert

    my brother is a former anti and now it is time to help him buy his first fire arm. I am a Glock man but he does not like the lack of a manual safety. I have tried to assure him that Glocks are safe but he is a bit stubborn. What can you all recommend in 9mm with a manual safety?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdivence View Post
    my brother is a former anti and now it is time to help him buy his first fire arm. I am a Glock man but he does not like the lack of a manual safety. I have tried to assure him that Glocks are safe but he is a bit stubborn. What can you all recommend in 9mm with a manual safety?
    Split the diff and suggest XD....explain the grip safety on XD.
    Explain how under stress a manual safety can get you killed unless you train a lot with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdivence View Post
    my brother is a former anti and now it is time to help him buy his first fire arm. I am a Glock man but he does not like the lack of a manual safety. I have tried to assure him that Glocks are safe but he is a bit stubborn. What can you all recommend in 9mm with a manual safety?
    A car doesn't have a manual safety, but he drives right? Brakes can fail just like a manual safety.

    lol

    Actually take a look at 9mm 1911s. I dunno what type of budget he's working with though.

    I never understand the "I gotta have a safety" people. A revolver is deemed safe but has no manual safety.
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    Ruger SR-9 / Berretta PX / First 2 that come to mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
    I never understand the "I gotta have a safety" people. A revolver is deemed safe but has no manual safety.
    A typical revolver has a true DA trigger pull, long and hard. For some people, the Glock or XD type trigger is not, in their mind, a DA trigger, and, thus, makes them nervous to not have a manual safety.(notice the advertisements for adding a manual safety to a Glock).

    So, they only feel comfortable with a DA only semi-automatic, or one that has a decocker, so they can put the first pull in DA.

    I may not feel the same way, but fully understand their concerns.
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    What's his budget ? If he needs external safety go with a ruger as they are well built.Second thought hung up on safety ,what about a revolver?

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    All Glock have a safety!! Keep your finger off the trigger!!!!

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    Amen hitch!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    All Glock have a safety!! Keep your finger off the trigger!!!!
    Yes, but that's not good enough for a bunch of us newbies. We don't trust ourselves yet. Give us time, give us time. Comfort comes from practice as well as knowledge.
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    Revolver or the XD with a manual safety. The FN polymer pistols have an external safety as well.
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    I would show him the grip safety on the XD.

    Let him look at the rather extensive Taurus line of 9mm pistols. Most have manual safeties.

    The Stoger Cougar have a safety.

    The Beretta M9, the PX4 both have safeties.

    The Ruger SR9 has one.

    The Springfield EMP has one.

    Heck, just go to the websites of any gun maker and look at their line of pistols. You'll find some he's willing to consider.

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    Lots of good guns with safeties.

    Here is a few.
    S&W 3913, 59xx, 69xx, 40xx
    Bersa Thunder
    Beretta PX4 and Cougar (Stoeger)
    1911s
    And many more
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    he set a budget of 500

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    A typical revolver has a true DA trigger pull, long and hard. For some people, the Glock or XD type trigger is not, in their mind, a DA trigger, and, thus, makes them nervous to not have a manual safety.(notice the advertisements for adding a manual safety to a Glock).

    So, they only feel comfortable with a DA only semi-automatic, or one that has a decocker, so they can put the first pull in DA.

    I may not feel the same way, but fully understand their concerns.
    I don't, won't, can't, and never will. If you don't feel safe with a Glock you should not own a gun because it forces you to remember the rules of gun safety. Not say "oh it's safe" and then oops...
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