Back up gun

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    Back up gun

    What to carry as a backup? I've narrowed it down to either a P3AT,
    PF9 or LCP. Any comments welcomed. Thanks.
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    Out of those three, I'd go with the 3AT.
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    PF9 9mm ammo is cheaper and it's a 9mm
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    Out of those two I only have experience with the P3AT but no complaints about it so far. Don't even notice it in the pocket. I think Ruger still needs some time working the kinks out of the LCP. OMO

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    lcp with a carry clip dissapears anywhere


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    The little Kel-Tec 380 has worked for me for years. I have two of them. The only thing that's even tried to catch up with it is an imitation made by Ruger and they don't seem to be finding them that easy to copy. A recent survey shows about 70 % of them are working fine so far but the people with the other 30% are not happy.
    It's an ongoing poll...can't remember if this forum or another. The kel-Tec company has worked all the bugs out by now.
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    What is your main carry gun ?
    I'd go with a BUG in the same caliber and same operating procedures (if available).
    If you need to fall back on the BUG, chances are you'll be in high stress condition and will not have a lot of time to think about the operation of the BUG.
    I don't carry one ... if I did it would be a revolver .38 +P or .357.
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    My next gun purchase will be a P3AT.

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    PF9 backing up FNP9M.

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    I have all three. I carry my P3AT as backup and PF9 as one of my primary carry guns.
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    I would carry the biggest caliber backup gun that is practical for you to carry.

    If you actually have to use a backup gun, its because you are in a world of hurt.
    You have lost your primary, shot it dry,have a malfunction or any multitude of things that could render it useless.

    You will need the backup to keep you alive. Would you rather use a mouse caliber when things go south, or use a caliber that is a known stopper? Even then success is not guaranteed, but it only makes sense to stack the odds in your favor.
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    I would go with the P3AT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl View Post
    I don't carry one ... if I did it would be a revolver .38 +P or .357.
    3" GP100 as the main, 2.25" SP101 as the BUG and a speedloader for each.

    Out of the three originally posted, I'd take the LCP. Obviously I favor the Ruger products, but for good reason.

    I personally have found the P3AT to be unreliable. It seems to be picky about ammo and grip position, not something that I want to be worried about in a time of stress. To be fair, many small autos have the same problem, But IMHO to a lesser degree.

    Whatever you pick, make sure it is 110% reliable. Shoot it enough to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVIVIII View Post
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    Out of the three originally posted, I'd take the LCP. Obviously I favor the Ruger products, but for good reason. ...
    You wouldn't have it - would be back at Ruger having drop safety fixed.

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    Sure I would. I still have the one I bought my wife. When they are ready to do the recall on my gun, they will send me the box. Hasn't stopped either of us from shooting it; Whatever safety they install is no replacement for being responsible.

    If it is handled like the way the SR9 recall was handled, they will have the gun back before you miss it. Yes, I went through that one too.

    You can't fault Ruger for a heightened level of responsibility, it just how they are. Have a Ruger Single Six from the early 50's? Even if you bought it at a gunshow from a guy that fished it out of a pond, they will update it for free.

    Any gun has the potential to fire if dropped or mishandled.

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