S&W J Frames

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    S&W J Frames

    I'm considering a J frame revolver. During cooler weather and on weekends I carry my Government model 1911 in a Milt Sparks SSII. I want the J Frame for all other occassions. My wife may also consider carrying it periodically.

    I've noticed that S&W offers their line of 642 models with a "Lady Smith". Is this more marketing hype or is there some other difference?

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    i think the lady smith is all steel

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    No, the 642LS retains the alloy frame of the standard 642.
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    The Lady Smith comes with Pretty grips.
    Have Fun and Shoot Straight !!

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    How about going directly to the source?

    Product: Model 60LS Revolver - LadySmith®


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    The light weight J-frames can be rather harsh with +P ammo, and they will usually crack the frame right under the barrel. As small as the J-frames are, and I'm sure you want to be able to shoot them to get to where you are comfortable carrying as a primary warm weather, and BUG for the cooler months, I suggest getting all steel, and preferably an older one with out the lock. 640's in .38spl can be found used for less than a new 640 or 642. The older 640 will handle all the +P you want to put through it.
    Since your carrying a 1911A1 during the winter months, your not going to notice the 640 on your hip or in your pocket. Plus your wife will enjoy shooting the all steel J-frame alot better than an aluminum one!!

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    Since many women carry in their purse, I think she would be better off with a snag free model like the 640 which is hammerless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldp4570 View Post
    The light weight J-frames can be rather harsh with +P ammo, and they will usually crack the frame right under the barrel.
    There is some truth in that.

    S&W solved the problem in 1996 when they introduced the J Magnum frame. All J frames, both alloy & steel, built after that time feature the Magnum frame and are +P rated.

    That's not to say they are necessarily pleasant to shoot with +P ammo, but they are safe.


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    Yes but can an older alloy frame S&W J-frame handle a normal diet of standard pressure ammo with no ill effects? I ask as I have an older air weight model 42 lemon squeezer and plan on shooting it often but with standard pressure ammo. Will this be okay for the gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911luver View Post
    Yes but can an older alloy frame S&W J-frame handle a normal diet of standard pressure ammo with no ill effects? I ask as I have an older air weight model 42 lemon squeezer and plan on shooting it often but with standard pressure ammo. Will this be okay for the gun?
    Yep!

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    My wife just bought a new 637 J frame and put pink Crimson Trace grips on it.
    She finally got a chance to shoot it yesterday and loves it.
    She thought the recoil was comparable to her G26. Shooting standard pressure loads out of each, of course, for range practice.
    She likes being able to cock the hammer for the easier trigger pull, but knowing in a time of desperation all she has to do is squeeze the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911luver View Post
    Yes but can an older alloy frame S&W J-frame handle a normal diet of standard pressure ammo with no ill effects? I ask as I have an older air weight model 42 lemon squeezer and plan on shooting it often but with standard pressure ammo. Will this be okay for the gun?
    As I replied in another thread where you asked this same question, standard pressure ammo will work just fine in your Model 42.

    BTW, your Model 42 is called the Centennial, not the lemon squeezer.


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    I bought my wife a S&W 431PD in .32H&R for xmas last year.

    Its a really nice little gun to pack, light weight.

    it was also a tax write off, what a country..
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    My wife carries a model-38, newer model is called a 638; she really enjoys it's weight and ease of concealment.

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    My adult daughter came over for Thanksgiving yesterday and she let me handle her allow J frame. Very nice piece, easily concealed in my front right pocket. I liked the Crimson Trace feature too. She says the gun has quite a recoil due to light weight but that's the trade off I suppose. She really likes the lady grip. She got her AL CC permit but is still not entirely comfortable carrying it loaded in her purse. I coached her on what to do if she ever had to use it (keep firing until the threat is gone).
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