Got an email from S&W

Got an email from S&W

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    Got an email from S&W

    I was planning on buying a 638 or a 642 no-lock. I couldn't find any info on the 638, so I emailed Smith and Wesson to ask them if they plan on offering a no-lock version of the 638. They responded saying:

    "hi
    sorry no longer have non-lock guns
    thanks"

    I don't know if I'm going to buy a j-frame if I can't get one without a lock, which really sucks because I was looking forward to trying pocket carry.
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    Why do you want a no lock revolver? I have a 638 (with a lock) that I pocket carry. The lock has never been an issue as I never use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHILBEE View Post
    Why do you want a no lock revolver? I have a 638 (with a lock) that I pocket carry. The lock has never been an issue as I never use it.
    Same here

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    There have been more than enough reports of lock failures on Smith J frames to make me not want to take the chance.
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    The lock failures are mostly a myth, very few have been the truth. Never using will eliminate most issues.
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    Just shop for a good used Smith & Wesson of the model that you desire that's without the dinky lock baggage. I've never had a Smith & Wesson revolver lock up on me but then I don't have any with little fiddly locks on them.

    Yes, they do lock up. I know folks to whom it's happened. I just shot a Model 329 PD a couple of weeks back that displayed the tendency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCfromNY View Post
    The lock failures are mostly a myth, very few have been the truth. Never using will eliminate most issues.
    Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCfromNY View Post
    The lock failures are mostly a myth, very few have been the truth. Never using will eliminate most issues.
    Ummm... not quite:
    Post Your Integral Lock Induced Failures (ILIF). - Topic Powered by eve community

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    Jeez...I've been reading through that thread. It's scary. I don't want an S&W anymore.

    Oh yeah, and I recall reading somewhere that Massad Ayoob said he doesn't think using one of these is a good idea. Not sure if anyone knows exactly what he said on the subject?
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    Well...I've put hundreds...perhaps thousands...of rounds through mine and have never had it lock up...
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    Its a none issue, another firearms myth. The S&W locks are not an issue with these guns. Remember, people can write anything they want to, you do not have to beleive it all.
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    Unless the forum members on the other referenced forum are not being truthful the failures are not a myth. Accordingly, I would not purchase a S&W with a lock.

    The odds of the gun failing due to the lock appear to exceed the odds of being attacked. As is often asked, "Is your life worth taking a chance?" Not for me.

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    First I will not have a lock on a firearm, its stupid, remember the old 656 smith auto? It would not fire with out mag, good safety feature a few people died with a round in chamber after mag fell out or not seated. But more important point is by buying a smith you support a company imposing its will on its customers, not supplying what its customers want. That's arrogance by ignoring what the market wants. If you want to lock your firearm, there are a lot of methods, better and safer.

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    There have been numerous reports of magazine disconnects saving lives; Mas is one source. Another is a poster here that was part of a large PD that had mag disconnects on their guns and he was a strong advocate of mag disconnects because of how many incidents on the street ended with the LEO going home because the GG couldn't get the gun to work.

    If anyone has any real, documented stots of mag disconnects being the sole reason for a gunfight to turn out badly, I'd love to hear them.
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    I can't back it up any more, it was in the 80's, so I'll retract that, but stand by company arrogance.

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