XDM Too Large for CCW? I Think Not: XDM Size Comparison Pics.

XDM Too Large for CCW? I Think Not: XDM Size Comparison Pics.

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    XDM Too Large for CCW? I Think Not: XDM Size Comparison Pics.

    So one of the reasons that I was hesitant about picking up the XDM is that a lot of people were commenting that it would be too large for CCW, I compared them in store to several guns that I carry on a routine basis and in some cases it was smaller, but in the few cases where it was larger, it wasn't much larger.

    Here's some pics I took this evening, you can get a general idea of dimensions from the mat.

    Note that I align guns by the trigger guards, when you think about it, it's basically the one aspect of most guns that are similar and gives a better visual of actual size difference.

    Here's most of my demo guns, not pictured is the 3" 1911 and J-Frame.



    Now up until recently, my main carry gun had often been a 5" 1911, while the XDM has over twice the capacity of a 1911, size wise it's actually smaller than my Les Baer as shown.

    (Sorry about the finger, but due to the slide profile of the "M" slide, it liked to tilt grip up when laying down)


    Side by side, standard thickness grips on the 1911.


    The "M" is not as thick as I thought...

    Here is the "M" along with my Hi Power, the HP is actually a bit longer than the XDM.



    And side by side, the XDM and the HP.



    And as we all know, it's the grip that's hardest to conceal, right?

    Well here's the XDM along with my HK P7.



    Now while the P7 is considerably smaller, most of that is due to the low bore axis allowed by the gas system and recoil spring being around the barrel.

    Again, side by side to show thickness.



    Without doing an actual measurement, it appears that the P7 is a little more narrow, but remember that the P7 is a single stack 9mm with a capacity of 8+1.

    Next up is the Sig 229 and the "M"

    Forgive me, but while I do have a pretty good collection, the best I could do for this comparison is a "Blue Gun" from Ring's.





    OK, so now what about some smaller guns?

    Here are the "M", a 3" Kimber and a S&W J-Frame 360.

    I didn't do a side by side as the Kimber should be darn close to the thickness of the other 1911 pictured, the only difference might be in the grips, but not much. I also didn't think to get a side by side of the J-Frame before packing it back into the safe.





    Now while many still won't carry something of that size, you can see that it's not that big, over all it's in the same size class as the Hi Power(13-15 rds.), the Sig 228/229 (13rds), full frame 1911s (8rds), I'd like to get a G19/23 for size comparison, but that will have to wait.

    Overall I don't think concealment will be an issue, I can hide the XDM-9 with the included paddle holster under a vest, so once I get my IWB I think it will hide the same as my current carry guns.


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    GREAT POST JD!

    Thanks for the comparison pictures. That was great. I had been thinking about the same thing. I really like the XD-M and have held a few but not shot any of them. I really really want to shoot one.

    Can we expect a range report from you in the near future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    GREAT POST JD!

    Thanks for the comparison pictures. That was great. I had been thinking about the same thing. I really like the XD-M and have held a few but not shot any of them. I really really want to shoot one.

    Can we expect a range report from you in the near future?
    I guess you missed it...

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...nds-today.html


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    thanks for the post JD. I am thinking about getting one. But I haven't gotten over my plastic phobia yet..........

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    Outstanding post. XDM and XD pretty much the same? I really like the P7. How hard are they to find? Is that something you would carry every day? My Pop lives in Franklin County. Where in Bedford are you guys?
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    You should have asked; I'd have lent you my XD for pics. Shall I bring it with me tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matdicdad View Post
    Outstanding post. XDM and XD pretty much the same? I really like the P7. How hard are they to find? Is that something you would carry every day? My Pop lives in Franklin County. Where in Bedford are you guys?
    There were several changes made on the XD to get the XDM, I'm not going to list them all, you can read about it by searching here, and looking at Springfield's website, regarding the P7, you can find them, currently I think CDNN has the best prices, but beware, they are addicting and mags are costly. I have carried it as EDC, I'm sure the P7 will still find it's way into rotation, but once I get more rounds through the XDM, it's taking point.

    As far as where we live, there's a reason I just list the county.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chooie View Post
    You should have asked; I'd have lent you my XD for pics. Shall I bring it with me tomorrow?
    Tomorrow's bad unless you're letting it sleep over in the safe.

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    That works for me.

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    I carry an XD45 tactical, which is a 5" slide. As long as I have a cover garment I am good to go. That XDm is much smaller.
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    Smile

    There is no end to what some folks will do to avoid changing diapers!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevePVB View Post
    There is no end to what some folks will do to avoid changing diapers!!!!
    I carry an XD service in a Crossbreed Super-Tuck holster. The only thing that would make it more comfy would be for me to lose some of the middle!

    Now...diapers... Please, let's keep this discussion civil. Such things should be .



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    That was a great post. I've never seen anyone do that with the pics and graph paper. That was the most helpful post I've seen in a long time.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorblade View Post
    That was a great post. I've never seen anyone do that with the pics and graph paper. That was the most helpful post I've seen in a long time.
    Thank you!
    You're welcome, and that's not graph paper, it's Lima's fabric cutting mat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    You're welcome, and that's not graph paper, it's Lima's fabric cutting mat.
    Yea, most folks without wives would not recognize the hard plastic fabric cutting mat right off hand. I did for some reason. I sure hope you don't use her wheel cutter for your kydex.

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    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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