Another "what gun to buy" thread

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    I had a P239 (.40S&W)... didn't like it... grip was too small for me... it never felt comfortable in my hand... if you are considering it PLEASE shoot it first!!! If you really like SIG, I do, you might consider the P229... I'm considering it for my next purchase... it has very close to the same grip as the P226.

    Glock 23... excellent size gun... I love my Glock 23c... some don't like the "c" model, but I really like it.

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    Never heard anything bad about the Sig 239.
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    I have the P229, P239, P226 and P220 SAS.
    I have never had any issues with a Sig, cheap ammo, good ammo, reloads..all go bang. Shoot anything you are thinking about buying, given that option. Really helps on those fine things one may overlook by a cursory glance or feel. Luck.
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    You already have a .40 (G27), so I say stay with this caliber if ammo cost is a consideration (you mentioned it earlier).

    The G23 is barely larger than the G27 you already have, I doubt you will see any noticable shooting improvement with the G23 over the G27. The G22 is quite larger though compared to a G27 and should make a big difference as it did according to your first post.

    I would get a Sig229 if I went with Sig. Again to get the larger frame grip compared to a G27.

    Barrel length isn't much of an issue with IWB carry, but the grip can be. I carry a Sig229 IWB, sometimes in a tuckable holster and it conceals well, but the G22 will too with loose clothing. IMHO, stick with a .40S&W, and go with a Sig229 addition.

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    I have a SIG 228 that has never bobbled in thousands of rounds and is easy to pack and way more accurate than me. Very good friend recently bought a 239 SAS. Once I got a feel for the trigger I liked it but not enough to fork out the big bucks for it. HIGHLY recommend the 228. Try one out and I think you'll like it.

    Personally like a SA. Carried a Springer for 18 years till I swapped over to my Browning Hi Power. Shoot it better than my .45, ammo's cheaper and very easy to conceal. Just need to practice taking that safety off on the draw till it's second nature. Another point is if your weapon is ever grabbed by some punk that safety could be a lifesaver as most gang bangers I've came into contact wouldn't know what a thumb safety was. Might give you the extra time to retain your weapon or take him out using other methods. JMO.
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    Paul: I have a 19 (same size as 23) and a Sig p-239m in .40 cal. Given what I now know, I would have selected the 23 over the Sig. Here's my reasons: While the Sig is a fantastic gun, flawless in over 600 rounds, it is heavy for a gun only carrying 6 rounds. Additionally, the Glock has a more durable finish. I only carried the Sig for about a month, and it started to show holster wear. Add to that the cost of a Sig being anywhere from $150 on up over the price of the Glock, really makes the Glock the better buy. the only advantage the Sig has, as I see it, is a thinner grip at the cost of round count.

    So, I would say go with the 23!

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    I think most of you guys got lost when the OP stated he wanted a larger/heavier gun because he doesn't shoot his G27 well. While the 23 is a fantastic pistol, I don't think (OK, I know) he is not going to see a major difference between the two, especially considering he already tried a grip extension.
    I really think the answer would be a G19 if you wanted to stay with a Glock, or if you want to stay with a 40, a heavier metal framed gun like a Sig would suit you fine.

    I was in your very position a few years ago. That is how I discovered the G19. I've never shot a 40 as well as I do a 9mm or 45, so that's what I stick with now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulJ View Post
    my EDC gun is a Glock 27 right now. I like the way it feels, but am not quite happy with the way I shoot it. Last weekend, I used a 15 round magazine with grip extension, and my aim significantly improved. So I am thinking about maybe getting a heavier / larger gun. I am a bit partial to another Glock, but I am eying a Sig (if someone can help me justify the extra price :-) ).
    I would like to stick to .40 cal, but well... could be talked into downgrading to 9mm by a crafty salesman.
    Other requirements: I like to be able to train with .22 for cost reasons, and use my Advantage Arms conversion kit quite heavily.

    So here are my choices:
    - get a larger Glock (22? or should I go 23? remember I carry IWB concealed)
    - get a SIG P239 (is it heavy enough to make a difference? I assume the fact that it is all metal may help?
    - get a brass grip plug for my G27?

    One reason I am thinking about a SIG is the option of a single stack slimmer design.

    heck. do I make sense? Or do I just look for an excuse to buy more toys?
    If the G27 just won't work for you, the way you would like, then quite possibly it's time to call a time out. I conceal a G19 just as well as the G27, so a G23 shouldn't be out of the question. Since I got away from Glocks in the 45 caliber for good reasons, I know where you're coming from in a way. SIG was the answer for me there albeit full size. Alloy, or aluminum frame...stainless slide.....not as heavy as they would appear to be. Single stack is no drawback for me, and one of these days, I'll be back into a 1911 model of some sort. Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em. Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. I like the 40 S&W in a small package. "Downgrading" to a G26 (9mm) could be a good option as well. You'll find it soon enough. Good luck.

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    I am prefferable to the G19
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    I have a problem hiding double stacks, which led me to Kahr, but my Glock 19 is just flawless on performance.
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    As a little thank you for all the help, here a bit "gun porn". Went out today and with the wives "blessing" got myself a used Sig 229 at a local gun store. Yesterday, I went to a gun show, but prices where much worse then at local stores, and I like to buy at local stores anyway (in particular used). It came with 4 magazines, a Sig359 and .40 barrel, two spare recoil springs and night sights. The store had it labeled as "excellent condition" (had scuff marks, but nothing I would consider "damage". And it looks black and uggly like a good gun is supposed to look like (they also had a nice shiny SAS... but it was a bit more expensive and didn't have the extras). So tomorrow it is off to the range for some "getting used to".

    The gun show was a good opportunity however to hold a lot of different guns to see what feels best. The Sig won over the Glock.

    The Sig 239 was a bit small and I am able to conceal the Sig 229 even with just a t-shirt and a basic kydex IWB holster. Need to get a MTAC like I got for my Glock later.

    Now more questions :-)... I did see that Sig offers a "service plan" for $130 which includes replacing all the springs and new nightsights. Is it worth it? The gun store includes a "life time" warranty (and I trust the store... which is part of why I got it there), but of course they will only replace parts after they break.
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    Nice choice.
    If you don't/can't work on your own gun, then the warranty may make sense.
    Night sights on CDNN for Sig sometimes around $50, but you have to have a sight pusher to put them on.
    I have carried my P229 for 5 years now, quite a few rounds down the tube..never an issue to date.
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    Took it out to the range today. Wow! I made the right choice! Shoots much better then the Glock 27 for me. Even my wife likes it (a lot... have to be careful that she isn't taking it from me :-) ). She usually carries a .25 cal Beretta which she shoots very well. This gun, she shot as well on 7yd, and for forther distances she shot much better with the .40 Sig (no big surprise on the larger distances).

    Anyway. We had a lot of fun, shot maybe 200 rounds. Even the WinClean ammuntion that had issues in the Glock once in a while had no problems in the Sig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devone6 View Post
    You already have a .40 (G27), so I say stay with this caliber if ammo cost is a consideration (you mentioned it earlier).

    The G23 is barely larger than the G27 you already have, I doubt you will see any noticable shooting improvement with the G23 over the G27. The G22 is quite larger though compared to a G27 and should make a big difference as it did according to your first post.

    I would get a Sig229 if I went with Sig. Again to get the larger frame grip compared to a G27.

    Barrel length isn't much of an issue with IWB carry, but the grip can be. I carry a Sig229 IWB, sometimes in a tuckable holster and it conceals well, but the G22 will too with loose clothing. IMHO, stick with a .40S&W, and go with a Sig229 addition.
    Glad I could help!!!

    Just kidding, Glad you got a new addition, can't go wrong with a SIG, I carry my G27 more, but shoot my SIG229 better. I definately recommend night sights, bought and installed will probably run you about $100 + or (maybe a little) -, so another $30 for a factory service and spring replacement sounds like a good deal to me.

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