1911 Safety Question

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    Question 1911 Safety Question

    I am new to 1911 ownership, and since I don't know I have to ask. If I carry a 1911 with the hammer down, a round in the chamber, and I drop the weapon can it fire if it falls striking the hammer? Sorry if this seems like basic stuff, but I would like to find out, just so I know. I am trying to get used to "cocked & locked" but it is not easy.

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    Yes the 1911 can fire if a round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.

    The 1911 is designed to be carried cocked and locked.
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    1911 Safety Question

    Thanks and good enough. I just found the 1911 Function Check on another thread and went through that as well, even though mine was just born recently. It is a Series 90 New Agent so the half cock feature allowed the hammer to drop when the trigger was pulled, safety off.

    I have carried for almost 40 years as a L.E.O. (retired) but the only 1911 I ever fired was as a ground pounder in the late 60's. Everything else I ever carried was double action.

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    To clarify a little bit more on the drop, a 1911 without a firing pin stop can fire if dropped in a certain manner. A 1911 like the New Agent has a firing pin stop that will keep the firing pin captive unless the trigger is pulled.

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    Not to mention it's darn hard to cock a hammer under stress on a 1911. Very easy to cause a negligent discharge carrying that way, and very slow to action.
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    Carrying a 1911 in Condition 2 (hammer down, round in the pipe) is dangerous.

    Experts agree: Do not do this.

    A 1911 can be carried in:

    Condition 1 (hammer cocked, round in the pipe, thumb safety on), or

    Condition 3 (hammer down, no round in the pipe).

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    Lowering the hammer on a live round is a negligent discharge waiting to happen.
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    It is true cocked & locked is safer and as JD said yours has a firing pin stop adding a bit more to the safety features.
    As others have said the 1911 is designed to be carried cocked and locked anything else you risk negligent discharge.
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    The "80" series Colt 1911A1 (and the 1991 A1) model .45 Auto was redesigned to not fire when it was dropped with a cocked hammer and a round in the chamber

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    The 1911 is a very safe gun...IF, like most guns you do your part..
    That being said, understand it fully, as many have managed to shoot holes in the floor, wall and such by lowering the hammer on a live round. Condition one is not for the faint hearted, as some can never get past the conditional thing. Luck with your gun.
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    1911 is all I carry, and let me tell you, hammer down, round in the pipe is a no, no. Since you are trusting your life to this pistol take some time to learn it, and don't carry it until you are confident with it.
    And if you never feel totally confident with it then don't carry it, buy something else.
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    The best part is that the 1911 is child-proof.

    This video explains how:
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    What a hoot man..thanks for sharing that..started my new year off with a chuckle.
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    I think it is important to always remember that a mechanical safety on a firearm is only a mechanical device that is subject to failure. The only true safety is the one between your ears.

    Condition 3 and condition 1 are the prefered carry conditions for the 1911 pattern pistols.

    Be informed. Be aware. Always be safe.

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    Just a word to the guys stating that the 1911 was designed to be carried C&L.
    The 1911 was originally designed WITHOUT a thumb safety.
    The thumb safety was added at the request of cavalry officers.
    It was designed to be carried with a round chambered and the hammer down.
    C&L became popular after Col Coopers advocation of this carry method.
    I carry mine C&L.


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