Glock 380?

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    Glock 380?

    I was just on glock's website looking at their 380's-25 & 28. Before they were LE only and probably still are-but-anyone think or hear rumors of them being available to the public, seeing as alot of other manufacturers are making them?Hmmmmmmm

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    I heard on another forum they were strictly made for the Eropean market, and the G25/28 models were same size as the 9mm subcompact. I still wouldnt mind having one for back up.

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    Yeah the 380's aren't USA approved. I forgot exactly why, and Glock had no plans to change things to allow the import of it either.

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    IIRC, they don't meet the minimum size requirements for import.

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    Why are the Glosk 25 and Glock restricted in the US?
    The G25 and G28 are .380 ACP versions of the G19 & G26. Because of their caliber they do not get enough import points for normal importation and are only available to LE and military. See here for details.
    What is the BATF points system and how does it affect Glocks?
    Many of the Glock's parts and sometimes the whole gun are dictated or limited by the BATF's system of "import points". To qualify for import a pistol must score 75 points based on the following system:

    Characteristic Points
    Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
    Forged steel frame 15
    Forged HTS alloy frame 20
    Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
    .22 short and .25 auto 0
    .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
    9mm parabellum and over 10
    Locked breech mechanism 5
    Loaded chamber indicator 5
    Grip safety 3
    Magazine safety 5
    Firing pin block or lock 10
    External hammer 2
    Double action 10
    Drift adjustable target sight 5
    Click adjustable target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2
    For example, here is how the G17 scores:
    Length (7.28") 5
    Weight (24.79oz) 25
    Caliber (9mm) 10
    Locked breech 5
    Firing pin block 10
    Double action 10
    Target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Total 80

    Here is how the Glock 26 scores:
    Length (6.29") 1
    Weight (21.87oz) 22
    Caliber (9mm) 10
    Locked breech 5
    Firing pin block 10
    Double action 10
    Target sight 10
    Target grips 5
    Target trigger 2
    Total 75
    From one of my favorite Glock resources on the internet: The Glock FAQ

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    That's too bad a 380 in the g26 size would be a nice backup.

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    I'm thinking why bother. Points or not, it's the same size as a larger caliber Glock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottc View Post
    That's to bad a 380 in the g26 size would be a nice backup.
    And so is the G26... love mine!!!
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    Why would a person want a 380 in place of a 9mm if it is exactly the same size???? 380 ammo is higher priced and less energy. What am I missing???

    I do carry 380 as edc only because of the physical size of it, not because I like the 380 cal.


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    IIRC, the Glock in .380 was developed because in may nations...especially those south of Texas...it is a felony to possess a military caliber handgun and/or military caliber ammo. See this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottc View Post
    That's to bad a 380 in the g26 size would be a nice backup.
    Out of curiosity, why do you see the .380 as a nice BU when the G26 is as small and has more firepower?
    I would see the advantage in a .380 as being smaller and lighter than a 9mm. If it is the same size it offers no advantage in size or weight, and a disadvantage in power.

    Ammunition is easier to get, and maybe cheaper in 9mm than .380, although I have not compared prices.

    A .380 G "26" does not seem like a good idea or a good seller to me.

    If I use a .380 it will be my KT P3AT, which does offer the advantages of light weight, and small size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottc View Post
    That's to bad a 380 in the g26 size would be a nice backup.
    I'm clueless,why would a 380 be better than a 9mm or a 40s&w??
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    So buy a Sig .380, or a Taurus .380, or a Walther .380.

    All three of those just premiered at SHOT.
    All can be sold here in US, because unlike Glocks, all three have complete manufacturing plants in US now.

    Or a Kahr .380, probably about same price as a Glock .380 would be if you could buy one here.

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    If a Glock .380 would have a place in the US market, by now, someone would have offered an after market upper.

    I believe the Glock .380 would only do well in markets that have non-LE / military limitations on hand gun calibers. Case in point, Glock could add adjustable sights and a few other changes and get it in. There is not enough of a potential market to bother. IMHO, there are better platforms and designs using .380 then what glock offers, for CC.

    But I have never shot a Glock .380, so maybe there would be something to it.
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    The bottom line, not invented here, not built here, and certainly not available here. But maybe that will change when the new facility opens in the US?

    It was stated at the Glock end of show reception... 2009.

    The .38 super was a Mexican solution to the same no Mil Spec calibers here, in my mind a better round than a 9mm anyhow.

    Italy has the same rule, El Al security had 380 Berettas when the Rome Airport attack took place, the terrorists were armed with AK 47s, all killed by the Israelis, one beaten to death by an empty .380.

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