This is a discussion on where did safetys go? within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tlkolrod Now I am learning Thanks for the post I have a gun with an external safety and one with no external ...
I've shot revolvers, various autoloaders with different designs, and in the end it boils down to a matter of personal preference and what the gun is going to be used for. A safety can be a liability in a self-defense gun if you forget to release it during an emergency. That is why so many guns today are sold as double action only or double action/single action.
Modern guns are safe just the way they are, and there are very very few discharges that can't be attributed to a combination of no brains and negligence. Mechanical failures are very very rare in weapons which are properly maintained and tested, and returned to the manufacturer (or taken to a smith) if something is not quite right.
If you are going to buy a gun, try them out at a range and try different kinds until you learn what you feel comfortable with.
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The reason most people carry guns without a manual safety is that if your being attacked and you have to use your gun quickly, you may forget to flip the safety off in a moment of panic and it may cost you your life.
LIke my striker pistals trigger safeties & brain ;)
I am in the minority here. I prefer guns, other then revolvers, with manual safetys. It is a compromise I have decided to make, ie, the possibility of forgetting to flick off the safety, against the added comfort, for me, of reducing the likelihood of a negligent discharge.
I practice my draw enough, both dry fire and at the range so that I am comfortable that it is unlikely, possible yes, that I will forget to flick off the safety. I feel that, at this point, it has become part of my muscle memory.
We all make compromises in every aspect of our lives based upon our value judgments, and this is one I have chosen to make.
"It does not do to leave a dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him."
J. R. R. Tolkien
Keep your D--- trigger off the weapon till you have acquired your target.
I prefer a thumb safety as I grew up with 1911's when I first entered the service and am intimately familiar with it. Sweeping it off is a natural process after shooting one for 30+ years and is as fast for me as with any other weapon. That safety may also save your life some day if your gun is grabbed off of you. Most hoodlums do not know of the thumb safety on a 1911 or BHP (My 2 favorites) and don't carry these as the plastic gun is their weapon of choice. If they snatch it from you and the safety is engaged it can give you the extra second/seconds to regain that weapon by whatever means possible and resume the fight. Highly recommend a Retention Class for everyone who CC's.
If you are going to invest big money in a CCW YOU NEED to practice with it until drawing and firing are ingrained in your brain. I have friends who do not train and carry on a regular schedule and they are scary to me. Kind of like a 16 YO behind the wheel of a Mustang GT 500. They can drive it, but are they capable of handling it safely?
Enough rambling. A great weekend to everyone!
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Just curious if anyone has ever looked at this statistically with the question being:
Are you more likely (not being a police officer), of being involved in a draw and fire self defense situation than you are of being involved in a negligent/accidental discharge?
Any math wizards out there??