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    where did safetys go?

    First ---did I spell that right
    I am new to this sight but was wondering why so many carry
    guns are without safety buttons or levers.
    It was difficult to get used to carrying a pistol
    without the safty. Is it just me or have others wondered?
    Thanks for your opinions in advance
    Toby

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlkolrod View Post
    First ---did I spell that right
    I am new to this sight but was wondering why so many carry
    guns are without safety buttons or levers.
    It was difficult to get used to carrying a pistol
    without the safty. Is it just me or have others wondered?
    Thanks for your opinions in advance
    Toby
    There are many different pistol designs and many of these simply do not need external safeties because they have built in safeties. Revolvers do not need safeties and are never made with them.

    For someone not familiar with guns and with their handling, this might seem outrageous, but that is only due to a lack of knowledge and experience.

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    The ultimate safety is your finger. Train the right way and you will remain safe without a ND for a very long time.
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    I carry a GLOCK 22 40 S&W. It has the best safety of all, my trigger finger. Safety is on when my finger is off the trigger, and safety is off when finger is on the trigger.
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    The way I see it, this is as a result of all the auto pistols out now that are double action only. Glocks, Kahrs, etc. Like was said, revolvers never had safeties and these are the same. If you notice the single action (e.g. 1911 Kimbers) and SA/DA (e.g. Beretta 92F) guns still have safeties.

    It's a sign of the times.
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    if pistol falls from holster

    I was thinking more about the gun falling out of the holster.
    May sound odd but I am sure it happens
    Thanks for the thoughts and opinions

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsonabq View Post
    The way I see it, this is as a result of all the auto pistols out now that are double action only. Glocks, Kahrs, etc. Like was said, revolvers never had safeties and these are the same. If you notice the single action (e.g. 1911 Kimbers) and SA/DA (e.g. Beretta 92F) guns still have safeties.

    It's a sign of the times.
    That makes sense Thanks for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlkolrod View Post
    I was thinking more about the gun falling out of the holster.
    May sound odd but I am sure it happens
    Thanks for the thoughts and opinions
    No modern firearms of decent design are likely to go off when dropped. As a matter of fact, in some states (like Mass.) all firearms have to pass a drop test or they can't be sold by retailers.

    - revolvers have either a transfer bar or a hammer block - can't fire unless trigger is pulled.
    - Newer 1911's have firing pin blocks connected to the grip safety. So even if the thumb safety is off, it's pretty unlikely to fire when dropped. (In older 1911's the grip safety only prevents the trigger from being pulled, but they do still have the half-cock notch that should catch the hammer if it slips off the sear when the gun is dropped with the thumb safety off.)
    - Most other autos have built in safety features, such as Glock's "drop safety" and their firing pin safety, either of which prevents firing unless trigger is pulled.

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    Where did safeties go----No where they are still here between my ears. Guns that need them, have them, ones that shouldn't need them don't. There are a few exceptions, but that covers most guns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel View Post
    No modern firearm of decent design are likely to go off when dropped. As a matter of fact, in some states (like Mass.) all firearms have to pass a drop test or they can't be sold by retailers.

    - revolvers have either a transfer bar or a hammer block - can't fire unless trigger is pulled.
    - Newer 1911's have firing pin blocks connected to the grip safety.
    - Most other autos have built in safety features, such as Glock's "drop safety" and their firing pin safety, either of which prevents firing unless trigger is pulled.
    Now I am learning
    Thanks for the post

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingZ View Post
    Where did safeties go----No where they are still here between my ears. Guns that need them, have them, ones that shouldn't need them don't. There are a few exceptions, but that covers most guns.


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    The most important safety is the squishy one between your ears.

    The only gun that really "needs" a safety is a single action semiauto. Double-action and striker fired guns don't really need one, because a hammer or striker isn't fully cocked. That being said, there are many DA pistols that do have safeties, decockers, or both, and there are striker fired guns that have safeties as well.

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    Actually Smith & Wesson has made revolvers with a grip safety. and there have been older revolvers that had safetys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlkolrod View Post
    I was thinking more about the gun falling out of the holster.
    May sound odd but I am sure it happens
    Thanks for the thoughts and opinions
    If your gun drops, let it...do not attempt to catch it because you can grab the trigger by accident.
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    Go here to see Model 40 S&W with grip safety.

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