Kimber Ultra Carry II - Help please

Kimber Ultra Carry II - Help please

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    Kimber Ultra Carry II - Help please

    Ok everyone,

    I went to fun shop today and found the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II in stock for under 1k. Boy is it pretty to look at! My dilemma is that I have not shot a 3" Kimber and cannot find anyone who has one I can borrow or rent. My hubby has a BP Ten II (5" barrel) and I have shot it and have no problem.

    So any of you who have had the pleasure of owning or shot both of these (or any other comparable larger Kimber and an Ultra) please tell me how much difference there is or how much more recoil in the 3". I currently carry an M&P9c. I would hate to plunk that kind of dough down and then hate to shoot the weapon. I want an ultra to keep the weight down or I probably won't carry it at all.

    Thanks to all! You are great!

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    I have a Kimber Ultra CDP II which is just an excellent handgun all the way around. It's absolutely reliable, very accurate, and quite comfortable to shoot. For me, it's an ideal CCW. I carry it all day in a Tucker Answer.
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    ...just introduced myself in the new member thread & noted that as a CCW permit holder for over 12 years, I carried, for the 1st 11 of those years, a Kimber Ultra Carry... Loved it, comfortable to carry and shoot and recoil is not that bad. Reliable gun w/excellent accuracy. I recently picked up the Kimber SIS w/tactical rail..., not for carry, but just for a full size .45 and it is incredible. You can't go wrong w/Kimber.
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    3 inch vs. 4 inch

    The recoil of .45 in a 3 inch, aluminum frame 1911 is fairly significant, but the effect on the shooter is more a mental thing than a physical problem. In other words, if you have practiced with the gun and know what to expect, it should not affect your accuracy or comfort. It is mainly a question of overcoming the human tendency to flinch while pulling the trigger, sending the shot off target.

    I have a 3 inch 1911 (Colt) and a 4 inch 1911 (Kimber), both with aluminum frames. The 3 inch gun weighs about 24 ounces while the 4 inch gun weighs 28 ounces. The 3 incher has somewhat more pronounced recoil, as you might expect. But after 1000 rounds through the 3 inch gun I know what to expect and it doesn't bother me. And it is much easier to conceal than any other type of 1911, as you point out.

    So if you do get the Kimber 3 incher, I'd recommend enough practice to become used to it. You might find it just right for you.

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    Just to point out, in terms of recoil, that Kimber makes the Ultra Carry in 9mm. It is, I believe the Stainless Ultra Carry II in 9mm. I have shot it, the recoil is minimal and it was very accurate.
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    what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Just to point out, in terms of recoil, that Kimber makes the Ultra Carry in 9mm. It is, I believe the Stainless Ultra Carry II in 9mm. I have shot it, the recoil is minimal and it was very accurate.
    The shop also happens to have the ultra stainless in a 9mm sitting right next to the 45. I held both and they are physically the same size and weight. My husband asked the question "why do you want another 9mm?" I have a Ruger Sheriff 357 SA (beautiful gun), and a Marlin 1894 Cowboy Competition 38, and of course the M&P9c. He is the one with all the guns! My SA and rifle are for cowboy shooting and just plain fun to shoot. I like the M&P but also like the 1911 style and this Kimber feels great in my hand. But as pogo2 has said I am gearing myself up mentally for flinching already I can tell. Hence my question in the first place. Can one overcome this in a relatively short period of time.

    I may just give up and get the 9mm since I know I would have no problem. Does anyone else have this Ultra Carry II in a 9mm and how do you like it? Thanks.

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    I have the Kimber CDP Ultra II, had it for about 2 months and really like it as my CCW. You will notice a recoil, but it's not bad and is very manageable. I do practice weak side and strong side one-handed shooting this is where you notice the perceived recoil more. Using both hands I have no trouble with double and triple tap follow-up shots.
    I won't get into the 9mm versus .45 ACP debate, I like them both.

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    I don't think you'll have problems with the recoil. I have never really thought there was much difference in the felt recoil of the 3" 1911's vs. any other compact. I have a Tactical Ultra II and it's been flawless since the first 50-60 rounds . You will need to breakin the Kimber with about 250-500 rounds, as they are pretty tight from the factory.

    Get the 45, everyone needs at least one.

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    The Kimber SIS Ultra 3" 45acp, was my first of this type of pistol (1911, 45acp).

    Honestly, I was quite please with how manageble the recoil was. But my example may not be the best because mine weighs 31oz vs the other 24-26oz Kimbers.

    Still, If I had to bet money, I'm confident you're going to like it!

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    My wife can't stand shooting my XD9 (4") but loves my Kimber Ultra Carry. Go figure.

    I think it has more to do with the grip of the 1911 being a lot thinner and easier for her to get a proper grip.

    After a few rounds, or 500 as recommended by the break in, I don't believe you will have any problem with the recoil.

    One thing to try if you do end up anticipating, is for your husband to load your magazine with a snap cap thrown in randomly. After the first couple of times you jerk the pistol up with no bang, it will cure you of the 'instinctive' flinch. As an added bonus, you get to have somebody else load your magazines.

    Good luck on a great pistol.
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    For me I shot both the 3" and the 4" and liked the 4" tac pro better. More managble recoil . I own both , the 4" tack pro and the 5" stainless and to me they both have the same recoil.With the 4' I didnt have to get use to the recoil .Felt comfortable from day 1 .
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    I've shot the aluminum framed 3" 1911's in .45acp - they're a bit brisk for me. I do own a 3.5" Colt Officer's ACP with a steel frame. I can shoot that gun all day long with full power loads - not true fro the aluminum framed guns. I'm also not a fan of the bull barrels on 1911's - the barrel bushing is there as a sacrificial part, it's cheaper and easier to replace than the slide.

    The recoil is a bit more compared to the 5", but I had no issues during the first time I shot it, or thereafter. It's a very nice carry gun. I'm carrying the 5" 1911 daily now, primarily because the Colt's getting a high ride beavertail fitted to it at the moment to give the same feel as my full size and guide my hand into the grip on the draw.

    It definitely is a nice carry gun for me, and I strongly recommend them to anybody who is interested - but I really recommend getting a steel framed gun over an aluminum gun. In all reality with a decent holster and belt combo, you won't be able to tell the difference between an aluminum or steel framed gun. I can't tell any weight difference between the 3.5" and the 5" 1911's I carry - but the shorter grip of the officer really does make a difference when it comes to printing potential.

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    We have the 3 inch ultra carry II and also a 4 inch kimber aluminum frame forget which one its my wifes and we have a 5 inch aluminum framed kimber. there is a noticeable difference in the 3 inch my wife didn't like it and went with the 4 inch and loves it. i don't mind the difference especially with the ease of concealment but the 4 inch is nice?

    So did i confuse you worse? head on up to maine and you can shoot all of them.

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    Adding something to the list.

    Ok now that I have had some input and done a bit more research, I am liking the looks of the Compact CDP II with shorter frame but 4" barrel. Anyone have this? Thanks again to all who are trying to help.

    Good grief this looking at weapons and forums can make your eyes bleed! I do Like the laser sights though on the crimson carry. But maybe that is just a fad like bellbottoms.

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