February 1st, 2009 05:19 PM
Get a S&W 360PD - and have the Hammer Bobbed.
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February 1st, 2009 05:27 PM
Can't you buy an aftermarket shroud for the hammered S&Ws?
Someone is bound to still sell those...
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February 1st, 2009 05:40 PM
+1 on the 360PD.
Very light, weighed mine loaded with .357 at 14.1oz.
A lot of my friends think it is too "painful" to shoot .357's out of but I'm fine with it.
February 1st, 2009 06:00 PM
I have a couple of J-Frame steel Smiths. With good grips they are not too punishing to shoot for a few rounds.
I once shot a .357 in a very light Taurus and that one round was enough for me.
February 1st, 2009 06:12 PM
357 Snub = Ruger Sp101 !! If you want an Airweight Smith go with a 38Spl like a 642 or 442. GOOD LUCK
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February 1st, 2009 07:45 PM
February 1st, 2009 07:54 PM
I just went down this road and ended up with a Sp101. I shot my buddies 340 with a 357 mag in it once. Trust me you want some weight, if not get a 38spl. Lightweight 357's hurt, there no getting around that.
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February 1st, 2009 09:40 PM
You guys are Awesome.
OK I have rethought the lightest weight possible and .357 and took heed to someones post about lightest weight feasible in a .357.
I have come to the conclusion that lightest weignt possible is my biggest thing and that 11oz gun is just the ticket.
I also have to have the smallest snubby possible so I will stay with the 5 shot category and shortest barrel in .38
The bobbed hammer is just something I have always been used to as on my S&W Airweight but I can give that up for a hidden hammer--just CANNOT do exposed hammer due to concealablity in a pocket and need it snag-proof.
So I have re-evaluated and will go with a 38 that can handle +P ammo and forget about the .357 (it was a lot to ask) but hey I figured we can put a man on the mood (and get him back again) lol
Thanks a lot guys I will get one of those 11oz 38 snubbys with a hidden hammer.
I am a decent shot and since most firefights are within 7 feet with 3 shots being fired its all good.
Thanks a lot for all the help !!!
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February 1st, 2009 09:53 PM
I have had no problem dealing with recoil on my 340CT - 125 gr or 158 grain - the recoil pad on the back makes all the difference. 50 - 150 rounds through it once every two weeks or so and no sore hands, no blood blisters, no bruises. looks like a flame thrower when the lights are low.
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February 1st, 2009 10:21 PM
This doesn't meet your "lightest possible weight" criterion, but I think it's the best thing going in the range of things you're talking about, and it's for sale:
The hammer is "shrouded", but I found it easy to operate with the thumb, when using the gun in single action mode. And I suggest that the weight is a good thing, given the recoil of a .357 cartridge.
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February 1st, 2009 11:35 PM
I should have mentioned... I carry Gold Dot .38 +P in my M&P 340CT.
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February 2nd, 2009 08:05 PM
I carry the 340 M&P with Crimson Trace 405's on it. Very happy with it. A couple of thousand rounds (about 1/3 .357's. No sign of problems at all.
There are times I wish I had something a little heavier for practice. But I'm happy everytime I carry it for a day.
The j-frame triggers suck compared to what you can do with a k-frame trigger. Consider that as well. You'll shoot better with a larger frame. The trigger does smooth out after a lot of dry firing. But it will always "stack" compared to larger frame guns with their leaf springs.
But then - nothing conceals better than the j-frame. Worth a heavy trigger? Only you can judge.
This model costs more money than the others. But, I figure, if it's for carry, a few dollars is nothing IMO.
Overall I'm a happy camper.
P.S. - I shoot the DPX ammo for carry. I practice with POI matching reloads. These are lower recoil rounds than many others and more managable out of the light gun - still offering a big step up from .38+p's.
Do consider the lower recoil .357's in a very light weight snub. I've shot a whole lot of boxes of the really hot stuff. I can do it and I rather like to do it. But I simply perform better with the lighter stuff.
I don't beleive ther is much to be gained in a snub with the super hot stuff over the milder rounds like DPX, Golden Sabre, and Gold Dots for short barrels from Speer.
Last edited by Marvin Knox; February 2nd, 2009 at 08:25 PM.
Reason: Another thought!
February 3rd, 2009 09:24 AM
I'm with you on this topic, Rexster. I shot my daughter's Airlight with 38 special and I didn't enjoy it at all. Give me a heavy snubbie and load it up with 38 special! Leave 357 for my 686P 6"!
Originally Posted by Rexster
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February 3rd, 2009 03:27 PM
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Glock 45 asked:Freedom, I have been debating beween the regular hammer and the one you have. My wife may end up carrying this gun in a purse or IWB. I think maybe your hammer is better but the only thing I don't like is not being able to cock it for accuracy. Is it easy to get used to DAO ?
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February 3rd, 2009 04:48 PM
I EDC a S&W 640 but I carry .38 ammo in it. I have (past tense) fired .357 in it and in my S&W 60. My feeling is that you need to go to at least the Ruger SP101. Shooting .357 Mag in a gun weighing less than 32 oz in weight is not a pleasant experience. A 686 with at least 4 " of barrel is my minimum for .357 Mag. Shooting a J-Frame with Mags is like pulling a trailer with a Corvette: It can be done but your not going to enjoy the car! If you need a truck, get a truck. A 686 or N-Frame is a truck. A J-Frame is a sports car.
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