The Best Defense CC gun rating system.

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    The Best Defense CC gun rating system.

    I was watching The Best Defense the other night on the Outdoor Channel, and they did a segment on a concealed carry gun rating system where they would rank the gun on a 1000 point scale. Has anyone else seen this review system? And where I can find more reviews done with this system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkstafoo1 View Post
    I was watching The Best Defense the other night on the Outdoor Channel, and they did a segment on a concealed carry gun rating system where they would rank the gun on a 1000 point scale. Has anyone else seen this review system? And where I can find more reviews done with this system.
    IIRC, that was Larry Potterfield of MidwayUSA making that presentation. I have not seen anything online regarding the system or results organized by handgun choice.
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    I'd like to see the results.
    It's probably the more expensive the gun, the higher it rates.

    If it were a fair and accurate system, it would answer alot of people's questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrar97 View Post
    It's probably the more expensive the gun, the higher it rates.
    Yeah, probably. The guns with better design, features and materials almost always wins. Mix in market demand because its a good gun and everybody wants one... we're screwed.
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    No defensive rating system is going to work. No way they can take all the variables into account. What may be the "best" defensive weapon for me my just totally suck for you.

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    I don't really see this sort of rating system as a useful concept. Choosing a firearm for self defense is such an individual thing it's hard to see how a single scale like this could be useful. A handgun that I rate very highly, like my Glock 21, may be completely unusable for someone with smaller hands, or who can't effectively conceal such a large weapon. How do you assign a rating that would describe it's usefulness for both of us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrar97 View Post
    I'd like to see the results.
    It's probably the more expensive the gun, the higher it rates.

    If it were a fair and accurate system, it would answer alot of people's questions.
    Just reviewed the episodes I had on the DVR and here's the criteria used:
    1. Time to first hit on target (one handed)
    2. Accurracy of hits on target after 1st hit in 3 seconds
    3. Knockdown factor

    Colt Defender 45ACP - score 827/1000
    Berretta 950B Minx 22 short - score 218/1000
    S&W 342 38 Special - score 751/1000
    Colt DS-II 38 Special - score 684/1000

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    the crazy thing is that he rates the cun for CC by seeing how fast he can pick the gun up off of a table and hit the target. Since our gun will be on us in a holster, and not sitting on a table, its a very flawed test. The only part of the test that is infomative is the "One shot knock down factor", Or the scale they use that states how likely one shot will drop a man. Not kill them, but drop them. Even this scale has way to many variables, but I guess they go by statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylersDad View Post
    Just reviewed the episodes I had on the DVR and here's the criteria used:
    1. Time to first hit on target (one handed)
    2. Accurracy of hits on target after 1st hit in 3 seconds
    3. Knockdown factor
    Reliability?
    Concealability?
    Safety features to prevent AD?
    Holster/accessory availability?

    I could think of a few dozen more.

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    It's imperfect to say the least, but I've never heard of a comparative one. Just another blip to mull over.
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    Seems like they need to rate a few more guns and calibers! Only three calibers and four guns? No 9mm? No 40mm? They tested 22 but not 380? The didn't test any Glocks?

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    Sorry but that segment of Best Defense is a waste of time. The section on follow up shots is so much in the hands of the shooter it isn't even funny.
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    On the scale he uses why is the .357 Mag so low on it? On one stop stopping power that is. I don't like his tests. And what gun got the 1000/1000?

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    using the term "knockdown" as a criterion tells me all I really need to know about the objectivity of the evaluation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoTex View Post
    using the term "knockdown" as a criterion tells me all I really need to know about the objectivity of the evaluation...
    +1, and then some.
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