This is a discussion on Am I the only one that’s sick of 1911’s within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 2gunken This is going to upset a bunch of the diehard 1911 folk’s and I’m sorry about that. That is not my ...
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I don't have a 1911. I know what you are talking about, because a few weeks ago, I did not buy a mag I looked over, because it seamed like to much of the same old thing (and there was a 1911 on the cover).
I find I can't help but read gun mags. When stories on 1911s pop up I tend to read those articles at least once before I pass the on to my brother (we share gun mags, we live a few streets from each other, no point in both buying the same mag). Then the mags end up at the family cabin to be reread a few time during a rainy day before being donate to a camp fire.
I did agree with the quote for two readons.
I don't think 1911s can be considered the "Flavor of the Month". While I'm not a big fan, there is something about them that I think they will hold interest for the next 100 years (unless there is some drastic advancement in firearms). 1911s are worthy of bling (like a nice revolver). Some firearm platforms gain class when you fancy them up with non-functional eye candy. A plastic gun that is customized sometimes looks like it has been bedazzled.
I consider Glock, XDs, etc to be the firearms that maybe 50 years from now could fade. It is like some car from the 80s vs 50s. Sure, that well kept 80s is nice to look at, but the car from the 50s are the real classics.
Next, I don't think 1911s are like AR-15s. They might be someday, but if the military were to change to a new battle rifle, I do sometime wonder if the .223 round and AR-15s would maintain the same level of popularity.
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I agree with every gun magazine having an article about some type of 1911 pistol, and it's mostly the 1500-3,000 dollar models like Ed Brown or Wilson Combat. Just about every other issue of Combat Handguns that I pick up has a 1911 on the front cover, and I think I've read enough about them to last me a life time. The 1911 is a fantastic platform, but like any other gun there is only so much that can be said about them. I just can't see myself paying 2,000+ dollars for a .45 caliber single action handgun that does the same thing as a 700-800 dollar 1911. You might get maybe a better finish, along with all the "custom" features like skeletonized hammer and beaver tail, but those can be be easily put on a base model 1911 and you won't spend no more than 1,000 dollars in the end. If I'm going to pay 1500 dollars or more for a gun, I'm going to buy a rifle like an H&K 91 or a FN PS90. That is just me though.
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I'm in love with the 1911 but... I have to agree, I wish they'd stop beating this old horse too!![]()
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I gave $145 for my old 1918 vintage Colt 1911...in 1978. It groups fine and feeds and functions perfectly. It isn't necessary to read about why one needs the latest and greatest version of the 1911 with the "special sauce and three kinds of cheese."
As far as I am concerned, you are.
My 1911's are art, but I don't paint pictures with them. They are first and foremost tools. I will rely on them for self defense any time a situation calls for it. I train with them and shoot regularly and hit what I aim at both under stress and on the range. They don't get put away and forgotten about. Semi-custom? Absolutely. Expensive? Yes. Reliable? You betcha!
That being said, I don't really have any thing against plastic, but I don't care for Glocks. My choice would be an H & K instead. I have two of them also in 45 acp and I can shoot them equally as well as I can my 1911's, but I prefer the feel and substance of hard steel made in the USA. To use your terms, I don't want to upset anyone or disparage their choice. 1911's are my choice.
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that old war horse 2gunken has given you the freedom you have today and dont you forget it!!!
Well, I think you just hit on all the reasons why the old horse is still kicking ass and taking names along with the new fangled guns
But yes, I am sick about 1911's. They're starting to multiply. I held a Sig RCS tonight and I'm drooling over it. Commander length slide, officer's frame, the CCO hybrid I've been drooling over for a while at a decent price.
Dang on things are multiplying, and I'm not seeing much of an end in sight
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Dang it, with all these pictures ya'll are seriously making me want one...
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Try shooting a quality 1911 sometime and you just might be hooked forever. After all, there is a reason that 1911's are so popular.![]()
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As a relative newbie shooter who does not own a 1911 (thought I have shot a few), I am certainly not qualified to comment on the topic of the appropriateness of the of a 1911 vs more modern choices, but I recently read a thread on Stopping Power forum that I thought to be a highly informed discussion by someone who knows, a member of the LAPD SWAT who carries a 1911 on the job:
StoppingPower.net Forums - 1911 and Swat Spec Ops
His point was that a 1911 is like a thoroughbred horse, fast as hell but high maintenance. He said the tupperware were more like mules, they'll go all day long on a little bit of whatever feed is available but won't get you there as fast as the thoroughbred. He also said that twice a year he drops off his 1911 and a blank check with his gunsmith and that his EDC is a pair of XD9's
At this point, I am very comfortable with my HK or Kahr for EDC and like not having a manual safety on my EDC, but 1911's are intriguing. I doubt I would ever want a 1911 as a primary handgun, but the fact that 1911's are classic and 'hackable' appeals to me for the same reasons that that I like to shave with a straight razor and brush or work on cars I can tune without anything more than a timing light, tach and a small set of hand tools
Or, as Ken Hackathorn puts it so succinctly, "If you want to treat your handgun like a lawnmower (or a tractor, in my case), get a Glock (or a Ruger)."
I'm not an armorer and have no wish to become one. I'm not into gun games. I'm not willing to spend five times as much for an extra 1-2% of "performance", as defined differently by each shooter. And I really don't care that my trigger feels like shifting an early-model John Deere with a bad clutch after shooting my buddy's super-slick Sig 1911's trigger (which created the funniest anticipating recoil/bad trigger pull EVAR on my part once).