Ding on primer when racking slide, dangerous?

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    Question Ding on primer when racking slide, dangerous?

    When I rack the slide to clear the chamber when I put the gun away I think I am getting a DING RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE PRIMER!!

    It is a new Kimber 1911 TLE II. When I clear out the chambered round quickly I am now finding dings right in the center of the primer.



    If I rack it very slowly it is perfectly fine.

    Input Appreciated and fast!

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    That's odd. Does it do that when the hammer is cocked, or only when the hammer is down?
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    I've never put the hammer down on it yet with a round in the chamber. It is a home defense gun kept it a drawer and when it goes to sleep for the day I pull the mag and then rack the slide to empty it.
    I started to notice as I was relaoding the other day that alot of my rounds had big ole dings right in the primer. So I then racked a few more and sure enough dings. Then I racked one ever so slowly so it just falls out and no ding.

    I am not familiar with letting the hammer down on a live round yet.
    I would have to try that at the range where it is safer.

    Any thoughts now?

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    I was fishing for an easy solution. If the hammer is down and your rack the slide it does cause the hammer to contact the firing pin. I suppose if you viciously racked that slide you could dimple the primer in doing so.

    Since that is not the case, I do not have the answer for you. Sorry.

    I can speculate that your firing pin spring is weak, broken or missing. But that is pure speculation as I have never had this issue before.
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    I'm not a smith, but it doesn't sound good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atctimmy View Post
    I'm not a smith, but it doesn't sound good!
    Agreed. It is pretty much brand new so I might need to take it to the store and have them confirm wether I have a real issue or not.

    It sure looks real... reall scary to see dings in the primers.

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    That doesn't seem right. Kimbers Follow the series 80 design and the firing pin should be blocked until the trigger is pulled. I would send it back to kimber.
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    Yeah. You're ejecting a live round. The primer is hitting something hard enough to ding it. Not good.

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    I would call Kimber and talk to them, there is no way this is safe. They will probably have you send it in. When I had a problem with a Kimber last year (failure to feed and eject) they had it back to me in a week and sent me a few magazines and a bunch of springs for my trouble.

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    I wonder if I should go to the store where I bought it first, before I send it back to Kimber. They might send it for me and have a little more clout with the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rathos View Post
    That doesn't seem right. Kimbers Follow the series 80 design and the firing pin should be blocked until the trigger is pulled. I would send it back to kimber.
    I thought they used the Swartz safety system (firing pin is blocked by the grip safety, not the trigger).
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    I had a ND with a RIA 1911 whwn it dropped 3 ft on it's muzzle,if your getting firing pun impressions due to the slide racking I would suggest you replace it with a heavier firing pin spring.after further review I think it's suppose to have a firing pin block safety,but if it's used somebody may have removed it
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    I had a ND with a RIA 1911 whwn it dropped 3 ft on it's muzzle,if your getting firing pun impressions due to the slide racking I would suggest you replace it with a heavier firing pin spring.after further review I think it's suppose to have a firing pin block safety,but if it's used somebody may have removed it
    Its new out of the box.
    It has a grip safety.

    Another thing... If I rack the slide quickly and there is no mag in, it is seems to fail to eject proplerly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matiki View Post
    I thought they used the Swartz safety system (firing pin is blocked by the grip safety, not the trigger).
    Did a little research and I guess you are right. I guess that made that change on their series II pistols. I would still suggest having it looked at by Kimber as the firing pin should not be contacting the primers until you pull the trigger.
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    Here you go. According to the manual, it uses the Swartz style safety (grip safety). They call it a series II on page 14.

    http://www.kimberamerica.com/downloa...Fullsize45.pdf

    ETA: And I'll echo the others, get Kimber to take care of it.
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