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    The J frames are the best revolver bug on the market bar none and a far better gun in general than anything made by Kel Tec. Comparing a revo and a semi are compairing apples to oranges in many ways but as far as quality, the Smith is in a totally different class than KT. It this case you truely get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crzy4guns View Post
    Your Keltec P3AT will work fine as a BUG. I would use your cash and get a Crimson Trace laser for it and a pocket holster that will fit a P3AT with the laser mounted on it.

    There is nothing wrong with getting a J frame S&W .38 special, but depending on pocket size, it can be a little bulky to conceal IMO.
    I already own 2 pocket holsters for my kel tec and they do there job, but I'm still not satisfied with it and want to know your opinions on this mater
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    Sounds like you have already made up your mind if your not happy with it. I dont see the wheel gun making a good pocket caryy though. Unless you have huge pockets.
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    AFAIC that would be dependent on how small and lightweight you need. The J frame .38 special have served people well as a BUG or primary for decades. It is a great gun and a decent caliber. I often carry a SP-101 .357 mag as a BUG.

    If your requirements necessitate something even smaller and lighter weight than that, and for some people, their needs do, then go with the keltec or a Ruger LCP.

    You will, in all practicality be stepping down a notch in caliber, but with today's current hi-performance .380 SD ammo, I feel it is at least adequate. I have a Ruger LCP and it is for use as a BUG or used if I carry 3 guns.

    I'm not comfortable with a .380 as a primary unless I absolutely need a mouse gun for extreme discretion. Otherwise I would go with a snubby as a minimum primary.

    One other consideration is if you have to shoot through your pocket with your BUG! A semi-auto has a high probability of only giving you one shot before the constraints of the pocket causes a stoppage. Usually a "stove pipe" or even material caught in the slide. With a revolver, while there is a possibility of material getting bound up in the cylinder or snagged in the hammer, you are more likely to be able to get more than one shot before such a stoppage happens, if it happens at all. You have a good chance of shooting all 5 rounds. Revolvers have better mechanics if you have to shoot through your pocket.

    Bottom line... A J-Frame .38 is good for a BUG or a Primary where as a .380 is good as a BUG and not great at all for a Primary weapon or shooting through your pocket.

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    Oh what an easy question, do you prefer something sexy like this:

    or some ugly bottom feeder?
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    I'd always take a .38, .38 +P or .357 over a .380 and I prefer a J frame myself. A revolver is less likely to malfunction too. That's just my thinking.
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    Get the J frame. I like the 442 and 642.

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    Just my opinion but if weight is not an issue, J-Frame. If it is, and it is in my case, I carry a LCP with Hornady CD. Quiet comfortable in a Don Hume 001.

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    I just picked up a P3AT yesterday after carrying a Glock 19 everyday for the past few months. I absolutely love my P3AT!!! it's so light and thin, I really don't notice it in my back pocket at all. I have never carried a snubbie, (I do want one) but I think the slim auto is best for maximum concealment and comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWLCO View Post
    I just picked up a P3AT yesterday after carrying a Glock 19 everyday for the past few months. I absolutely love my P3AT!!! it's so light and thin, I really don't notice it in my back pocket at all.
    Bryan
    Just wondering if you are going to carry your Glock 19 anymore now that you have the P3AT? I have been thinking about getting a Glock 19 because of the extra rounds (15). I do like my two carry weapons (see signature) but wanted your opnion on the Glock 19 as an everyday carry.
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    Love my 19, it's just hard for me to conceal in warmer weather until my K&D holster comes in. The 19 is my primary carry. the P3AT is for those times when I would otherwise leave the 19 at home or in the truck. I do feel a little more secure with 16 rounds of 9mm +p JHP, but 7 of .380 is (hopefully) more than anyone would ever need.

    I have been contemplating dumping the 19 for a 17 for house/range, and a 26 for primary carry.

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    I vote for the Kel Tec as it's slim and easy to use as a BUG.

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    j frame or kel-tec p3at 380

    I've got both (plus just bought a Ruger LCP).
    The P3AT is (for me) the only gun I can carry in a pants pocket and much better than no gun.
    My 442 S&W has a Barami hip grip, is Mag-na-ported and requires an untucked shirt.
    The best compromise is to have both.
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    I think if you are going to ankle carry your BUG, then the J Frame 642 would be my choice. To slip the J Frame into a pants pocket is a bit bulky, although it's very lightweight. I carry G26 as primary and 642 on ankle. JMHO
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