whats a better BUG? j frame or kel-tec p3at 380

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    whats a better BUG? j frame or kel-tec p3at 380

    OK folks, I still have some tax refund money left over burning a hole in my pocket ( I've been on a fire arm shopping spree lately, just bought a mossberg 590 shot gun, a sig 229 and a used mini 14!)what I need is your opinion on this: I have a kel-tec p 3at in .380 that I rarely if ever use and on top of that don't like to shot( the trigger pull is to long and I cant seem to hit the mark at the range with any accuracy)I've been thinking of getting a j frame revolver instead, but I've never shot one yet, so my question is - is the j frame a good pocket pistol / BUG or should I save my cash and keep my kel tec?
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    The J frame s the quintessential pocket gun. If you get the hammerless it will fire from a pocket...something you cant say for your auto. Plus the .38 +p is a fine defensive load. You got it and can afford it get a j frame. I like the 642, it is a very nice gun and really loved on here.
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    Everybody needs at least one snubby!

    I switched my BUG from a P3AT to a customized 9mm j-frame. I like the .380 well enough and it is reliable but I like revolvers because they're pretty fool proof and much less prone to breakage or malfunction than autos. Plus my duty gun is a 9mm and I like the ammo compatibility and the act that it is much more powerful than the .380. I still have the P3AT and carry it on occasion when nothing else will fit.

    My advice to you is to keep the Kel-tec and get yourself a j-frame to go with it. Whether you go for the Centennial (hammerless) style or the Chief's Special (external hammer) style is up to you. Like jwhite said, the 642/442 doesn't have an external hammer to snag but it is DAO, the 637 gives you the choice of SA or DA but does have an exposed hammer. I've owned both, currently I have 4 snubbies and they all have hammers but 3 of them are bobbed.

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    Your Keltec P3AT will work fine as a BUG. I would use your cash and get a Crimson Trace laser for it and a pocket holster that will fit a P3AT with the laser mounted on it.

    There is nothing wrong with getting a J frame S&W .38 special, but depending on pocket size, it can be a little bulky to conceal IMO.
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    IMHO J-Frames are too bulky for pocket carry. Only thing I do is huge work pants, or cargo shorts. Otherwise it just plain doesn't fit good enough. Too hard to get out of the pockets.
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    J Frame will always go bang. P3AT/LCP not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan4x4 View Post
    OK folks, I still have some tax refund money left over burning a hole in my pocket ( I've been on a fire arm shopping spree lately, just bought a mossberg 590 shot gun, a sig 229 and a used mini 14!)what I need is your opinion on this: I have a kel-tec p 3at in .380 that I rarely if ever use and on top of that don't like to shot( the trigger pull is to long and I cant seem to hit the mark at the range with any accuracy)I've been thinking of getting a j frame revolver instead, but I've never shot one yet, so my question is - is the j frame a good pocket pistol / BUG or should I save my cash and keep my kel tec?
    I replaced my Kahr Micro and Keltec .32acp with a J-frame (Smith 640), and pocket carry it every where legal as a BUG along with the Sig220...well made revolvers have less factors that affect reliability than semi autos and though the Kaltec I had was reliable for the 200 rounds I fired, the Kahr (which I originally got for a BUG) was not (VERY Limp wrist sensitive, and FTE and FTF were common for every 50 rounds fired, the manual claimed it had a "break in period" but I call BS... no well made gun should be made to "break in" when it comes to reliability and I have not seen that with SIGs), so trading both of them for a J-frame was very easy and I ave no regrets.
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    I have both. I use the Desantis pocket holster for both.

    My S & W 442 is a little more heavy to carry in my pocket. But it is a more powerfull round with the +P than the .380.
    I also have Crimson Trace laser grips on both the Kel Tec and my 442 Smith & Wesson..
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    Better "BUG" debatable. More concealable: P3AT.

    Our opinions don't matter. If you don't like the P3AT and don't shoot it and can't hit nothin if you do, then give it up. I like my keltec.
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    You aren't fooling me for a second ! A should I or should I not get another gun post ,is 99% of the time followed within the hour, by a trip to a Gun Shop.

    Enjoy your new J-Frame.

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    stick with the J frame for back up...
    -more reliable
    -more accurate
    -readily available
    -ammo readily available
    -more powerful

    enjoy your new j frame
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    My KelTec P-3AT is of the 1st generation make, and it has never failed to perform.
    It is NOT a fun gun at the range, but then when I take it to the range, I just make sure it still fires and then give it a good cleaning.
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    The .380 is SO EASY to conceal...that's where it earns its keep.
    I would keep the KT and use the $$ saved to stock up on ammo. OMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavOkSIS View Post
    stick with the J frame for back up...
    -more reliable
    -more accurate
    -readily available
    -ammo readily available
    -more powerful

    enjoy your new j frame
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    I carry a J-Frame everyday, so I can honestly say my opinion is that everybody should have one.

    But you mentioned you don't like the trigger on the keltec. Keep in mind the hammerless j-frame's have about a 65# trigger that has about a 3' pull to it (ok slight exaggeration). I got used to it but, I want to make sure you are aware that the trigger on the j's are not short or light.

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    J frame is my favorite BUG. I have no personal experience with Kel-Tec.
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